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rbwright123

Guest
Insurance companies are risk takers, gamblers. They are betting on
the return of their collected premiums against the risk of possible
losses. Each insurance company ranks states risk based upon their
historical loss ratio and state laws. Risk associated with cars is
somewhat different than risk with boats. Amphicars present a double
challenge to insurance companys because of the multiple uses.
Regardless, states on or near salt water present a much higher risk
for all. Hagerty Insurance is an insurance agent . If you eximine
your pollicy with Hagerty an insurance company will be listed.
Hagerty writes for many insurance companys. If Hagerty can't write
in Alaska it is because they havent been able to negotiate with an
insurance company to enter that market.[to take the risk]. The key
to our Amphicar success in obtaining insurance is based on all of us
as a group of risk. The less claims the better our insurance
options. I also insure classic boats and cars with Hagerty.A few bad
apples in a particular group can result in pain for everyone.
Example ferrari, go to www.wreckedexotics.com . As the value of
Amphicars continues to rise so will the insurance premiums. If we
continue to demonstrate responsible ownership as a group our
insurance rates will continue to be affordable thru Hagerty Agency.
Marianna and I will be in Celina. Robert Wright,red 1967
 
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Michael Echemann

Guest
To me good insurance has a lot to do with your faith and relationship with
your agent. An independent agent can usually provide the best quality
companies such as Safeco or USFG etc. I wouldn't insure anything with State
Farm and certainly not an Amphicar. Those having insurance with State Farm
had better have a tidy letter in their file confirming coverage especially
in the water. I've personally never had any issue or dealt with them but
know of others who were promised and promised but eventually found out they
were not insured when demanding it in writing. I bet you would have a major
fight on your hands over value also if your car was stolen or totaled.
Don't even trust your agent on this one.

Why not use Haggerty???? JC Taylor is another good one or Grundy. Don't
trust your Amphi to the guy insuring your Suburban??? I've never had a
claim but if I did I'd be glad I'm with Haggerty. That would not be the
time I'd want to figure it out with someone used to dealing with late model
Fords and Chevy's.

Haggerty is the only one who will write you a marine rider. What's that
tell you?
 
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Mike Israel

Guest
<table><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I agree with Mike. Unless they do not offer coverage in your state, the decision to go with Hagerty is a "no brainer". Lots of examples of Hagerty paying Amphicar claims, with zerohassle, even on extraordinary costs like recovery from a river or bottom of lake. They will then be more fanactical than the owner about making sure everything is repaired proerly. Rates are as good as any one else's. Once you are a customer, Hagerty will often let you add your "pseudo-collectibles" to your policy that other companies will insist be under standard insurance, I have had both a Miata and a Fiero under Hagerty.
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Robert & Ina Cabanas

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<font size="4">I would like to know if any members have insurance with American Collector? </font>
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<font size="4">They (A.C.) assured me that the Amphicar was insured by them in the water. Their price was lower than Haggerty's. When I called them today to reconfirm the price & water insurance I found out that the person who gave me the info about water coverage (& that personwas DEFINATE that A.C. covered the Amphicar in the water) was wrong. It seems that the person I spoke with today thought I had a jet ski. What a joke. I kept explaining that I had an antique, amphibious vehicle! So, I'd like to know if anyone uses American Collector.</font>
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<font size="4">Thanks Ina in the Boro</font>
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lah20car@aol.com

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 6/14/2006 6:35:09 AM Central Daylight Time, amphicar770@yahoo.com writes:



<blockquote TYPE="CITE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why do you keep putting yourself through this? Numerous owners have advised you to go with Hagerty and be done with it.</blockquote>



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And I don't use Hagerty, but probably will, after reading all this--thanks to all</font>
 
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mstrug@juno.com

Guest
I just renewed with them. I asked her twice if its covered in the water and she said "0h yes we know what Amphicars are and cover them everywhere." I asked her if it sinks if it's covered and she said "yes". Her e-mail name is Jackie P. I don't have her full name near me right now just ask for her! Amphigr66n.
 
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casabala1@aol.com

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PersonallyI found all the discussions on insurance invaluable.
Would really like to see a summary of the various companies quotes.
Maybe the club could get a block deal ?/???
Keep asking those questions.

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Mike Israel

Guest
Ina,

Why do you keep putting yourself through this? Numerous owners have advised you
to go with Hagerty and be done with it. Your Amphi is a fully restored example
that is worth $50K plus and you have likely spent that much to get it there.
Why risk that investment to save $30 dollars a year in premiums? You have
already spent well over $30 dollars in time chasing down various insurers and
being mislead by various agents. Write the check to Hagerty and enjoy you Amphi
with peace of mind. And yes, your Amphi needs to be insured even during the
restoration process. Were it to be stolen from the shop or damaged otherwise,
it would be sad to realize you are not covered.

Mike

------- Original message -------
From: Robert & Ina Cabanas <ribcab@verizon.net>
Sent: 14.6.'06, 0:00

> I would like to know if any members have insurance with American Collector?
>
> They (A.C.) assured me that the Amphicar was insured by them in the water.
Their price was lower than Haggerty's. When I called them today to reconfirm
the price & water insurance I found out that the person who gave me the info
about water coverage (& that person was DEFINATE that A.C. covered the Amphicar
in the water) was wrong. It seems that the person I spoke with today thought I
had a jet ski. What a joke. I kept explaining that I had an antique,
amphibious vehicle! So, I'd like to know if anyone uses American Collector.
>
> Thanks Ina in the Boro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Israel
> To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Insurance
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> I agree with Mike. Unless they do not offer coverage in your state, the
decision to go with Hagerty is a "no brainer". Lots of examples of Hagerty
paying Amphicar claims, with zero hassle, even on extraordinary costs like
recovery from a river or bottom of lake. They will then be more fanactical
than the owner about making sure everything is repaired proerly. Rates are as
good as any one else's. Once you are a customer, Hagerty will often let you add
your "pseudo-collectibles" to your policy that other companies will insist be
under standard insurance, I have had both a Miata and a Fiero under Hagerty.
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Mike Israel

Guest
Have they put it in writing explicitly stating that both the vehicland
youliability are covered in the water? If not, you shoulnot consider yourself
covered.
What happens if you file a claim a year from now and Jackie is no longer there
or testifies in court that she has no recollection of makings such a statement?
Have you heard from other owners who have filed claims after events like sinking
and had those claims resolved promptly?

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From: mstrug@juno.com <mstrug@juno.com>
Sent: 14.6.'06, 10:10

> I just renewed with them. I asked her twice if its covered in the water and
she said "0h yes we know what Amphicars are and cover them everywhere." I asked
her if it sinks if it's covered and she said "yes". Her e-mail name is Jackie
P. I don't have her full name near me right now just ask for her! Amphigr66n.
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Robert & Ina Cabanas

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<font size="4">Mike, Thanks for your note. I must tell you that I feel like you're scolding me for looking for information. The info I'm searching for has cost me nothing & in the long run it might help another member with their insurance. </font>
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<font size="4">For instance: amphigr66n wrote that they are insured by American Collector (see a previous e-mail) & I feel needs to seethe water coveragein writing. According to the information I got from A.C. our amphibious vehicles ARE NOT insured in the water. If A.C. DOES insure in the water & is cheaper than Haggerty then why not use them? </font>
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<font size="4">A friend of mine has many antique cars & motorcycles. He insures all of his vehicles with Grundy. He swears by Grundy. I have spoken with them & am waiting to compare the written quotes before I make a final decision.</font>
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<font size="4">Yes, you are right about how much it cost me to rebuild my Amphi. You are also right about having it insured while it is being restored & that is also something our members should keep in mind. I have always asked that question of the people who have been restoring my vehicle.</font>
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<font size="4">I feel that it never hurts to rediscuss an issue. You never know who is new to our group & may need the information or who might be bringing us new information.</font>
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<font size="4">Anyway, it must be a female thing to 'shop'.</font>
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<font size="4">Thanks for your help. Ina in the Boro</font>
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Ina,

Why do you keep putting yourself through this? Numerous owners have advised you to go with Hagerty and be done with it. Your Amphi is a fully restored example that is worth $50K plus and you have likely spent that much to get it there. Why risk that investment to save $30 dollars a year in premiums? You have already spent well over $30 dollars in time chasing down various insurers and being mislead by various agents. Write the check to Hagerty and enjoy you Amphi with peace of mind. And yes, your Amphi needs to be insured even during the restoration process. Were it to be stolen from the shop or damaged otherwise, it would be sad to realize you are not covered.

Mike

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From: Robert & Ina Cabanas <ribcab@verizon.<wbr>net>
Sent: 14.6.'06, 0:00

> I would like to know if any members have insurance with American Collector?
>
> They (A.C.) assured me that the Amphicar was insured by them in the water. Their price was lower than Haggerty's. When I called them today to reconfirm the price & water insurance I found out that the person who gave me the info about water coverage (& that person was DEFINATE that A.C. covered the Amphicar in the water) was wrong. It seems that the person I spoke with today thought I had a jet ski. What a joke. I kept explaining that I had an antique, amphibious vehicle! So, I'd like to know if anyone uses American Collector.
>
> Thanks Ina in the Boro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Israel
> To: amphicar-lovers@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com
> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Insurance
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> I agree with Mike. Unless they do not offer coverage in your state, the decision to go with Hagerty is a "no brainer". Lots of examples of Hagerty paying Amphicar claims, with zero hassle, even on extraordinary costs like recovery from a river or bottom of lake. They will then be more fanactical than the owner about making sure everything is repaired proerly. Rates are as good as any one else's. Once you are a customer, Hagerty will often let you add your "pseudo-collectible<wbr>s" to your policy that other companies will insist be under standard insurance, I have had both a Miata and a Fiero under Hagerty.
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a_colo_native

Guest
.....And yes, your Amphi needs to be insured even during the
restoration process. Were it to be stolen from the shop or damaged
otherwise, it would be sad to realize you are not covered.

My bodyman spent a year restoring a 55 Cadillac. Nut and bolt show car
(estimated value of $80k). The final step before delivery to the
customer was to get it aligned. He trailered it to the alignment shop
for the job. That night the alignment shop burned to the ground taking
the Caddy with it. The car never saw it's 1st mile. The owner thought
he was covered, but was not because of some revisions to the policy.
Moral is get it in writing and know what your policy specifically
covers or does not.

John Bevins
 
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rlgreen_55

Guest
As Mike stated unless it is clearly in writing regarding water use
and coverage nothing verbal will hold up in a court.

I have collected antique vehicles for many years and have several
insured through a antique insurance policy. I had J.C. Taylor for
many years (no claims) however when I bought Amphi they won't touch
it for water use so I started looking around for coverage verses
rates from many of the antique insurance carriers.

In short and reading the policies from beginning to end from many
carriers Hagerty by far has the best coverage along with the most lax
usage stipulations, barr none. Just my 2 cents and hours of
investigation.

Ron Green
Camp Hill, PA.


--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Ina Cabanas"
<ribcab@...> wrote:
>
> Mike, Thanks for your note. I must tell you that I feel like
you're scolding me for looking for information. The info I'm
searching for has cost me nothing & in the long run it might help
another member with their insurance.
>
> For instance: amphigr66n wrote that they are insured by American
Collector (see a previous e-mail) & I feel needs to see the water
coverage in writing. According to the information I got from A.C.
our amphibious vehicles ARE NOT insured in the water. If A.C. DOES
insure in the water & is cheaper than Haggerty then why not use
them?
>
> A friend of mine has many antique cars & motorcycles. He insures
all of his vehicles with Grundy. He swears by Grundy. I have spoken
with them & am waiting to compare the written quotes before I make a
final decision.
>
> Yes, you are right about how much it cost me to rebuild my Amphi.
You are also right about having it insured while it is being restored
& that is also something our members should keep in mind. I have
always asked that question of the people who have been restoring my
vehicle.
>
> I feel that it never hurts to rediscuss an issue. You never know
who is new to our group & may need the information or who might be
bringing us new information.
>
> Anyway, it must be a female thing to 'shop'.
>
> Thanks for your help. Ina in the Boro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Israel
> To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Insurance
>
>
> Ina,
>
> Why do you keep putting yourself through this? Numerous owners
have advised you to go with Hagerty and be done with it. Your Amphi
is a fully restored example that is worth $50K plus and you have
likely spent that much to get it there. Why risk that investment to
save $30 dollars a year in premiums? You have already spent well over
$30 dollars in time chasing down various insurers and being mislead
by various agents. Write the check to Hagerty and enjoy you Amphi
with peace of mind. And yes, your Amphi needs to be insured even
during the restoration process. Were it to be stolen from the shop or
damaged otherwise, it would be sad to realize you are not covered.
>
> Mike
>
> ------- Original message -------
> From: Robert & Ina Cabanas <ribcab@...>
> Sent: 14.6.'06, 0:00
>
> > I would like to know if any members have insurance with
American Collector?
> >
> > They (A.C.) assured me that the Amphicar was insured by them in
the water. Their price was lower than Haggerty's. When I called them
today to reconfirm the price & water insurance I found out that the
person who gave me the info about water coverage (& that person was
DEFINATE that A.C. covered the Amphicar in the water) was wrong. It
seems that the person I spoke with today thought I had a jet ski.
What a joke. I kept explaining that I had an antique, amphibious
vehicle! So, I'd like to know if anyone uses American Collector.
> >
> > Thanks Ina in the Boro
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike Israel
> > To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Insurance
> >
> >
> > I agree with Mike. Unless they do not offer coverage in your
state, the decision to go with Hagerty is a "no brainer". Lots of
examples of Hagerty paying Amphicar claims, with zero hassle, even on
extraordinary costs like recovery from a river or bottom of lake.
They will then be more fanactical than the owner about making sure
everything is repaired proerly. Rates are as good as any one else's.
Once you are a customer, Hagerty will often let you add your "pseudo-
collectibles" to your policy that other companies will insist be
under standard insurance, I have had both a Miata and a Fiero under
Hagerty.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
 
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Ken Chambers

Guest
Ina,

I've been using American Collectors for a number of years. They
verbally said I'm covered in the water but pressed them to put it in
writing.

They sent me an addendum on their letterhead stating "This letter
will confirm our conversation today (letter dated 4/29/02) regarding
the use of your Amphicars insured with American Collector Insurance.
Please be advised that there is coverage for your vehicles while they
are being used in water provided they are used in waters within our
territories." Signed by Maura Craven, American Collectors Insurance.

Now that I read it again I wonder if "our territories" refers to
American Collectors' or U.S. territories.

Ken Chambers, CA
'64 Red
 
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Mike Israel

Guest
Re: Re: Insurance

<table><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Per Ron's point, the usage stipulations are indeed another item you should examine carefully. My regular cars are with USAA who is the top rated insurer out there. USAA also offers a classic and antique car policy but I do not use them for that. In their case they stipulate that the car must NEVER be left unattended in a public area or parking lot. Thus, if Amphi were to be stolen from the Eagles parking lot at Celina you could be SOL unless you required your spouse to stay with her while you enjoyed the banquet. Other policies are very explicit that car is to be used only for shows, parades, andsimilar. Hagerty comes as close to no limitations as you can get.
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">There is just so much more to the decision than that the price of your premium. Look at all theKatrina victims who "thought they were covered".

<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">Scan the list archives and you will find that this discussion has beeen had many times over the years. Hagerty has proven themselves to Amphicar owners many times. Others may or may not provide that same level of service when the time comes. The question, to quote Clint Eastwood, is, "Are ya feeling lucky punk? Well, are you?". For me it is not worth taking chances for $$$ savings ofless thana tank of gas.
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">I am not sure to what extent, but based on the goody bags, Hagerty does help sponsor the Celina swim-in each year.
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif">No, I am not affiliated with Hagerty in any way, just an extremely satisfied customer.
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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
All this discussion about coverage in water sounds like the concern
is paying for your Amphi if it sinks in the water. My understanding,
and I've been told this by several insurance companies including
Hagerty, is that all of the companies will cover Amphi if it
sinks....the only issue is the liabilty side of the policy. For
instance, if you're driving your new Ford pick-up that you insured
with your standard XYZ Insurance company, and you fall asleep and
drive off the road into a river, sinking the truck, you'd be
covered. Just like Amphi. The problem comes if you are in Amphi, on
the water, and hit another boat...damaging their boat, or worse,
injuring someone...you wouldn't be covered. They might fix the
damage to Amphi, but not to the boat or their passenger. The theory
is that your Ford pick-up won't be spending time cruising a lake, and
is less likely to hit and damage a boat.
Be sure to be clear when asking the question about coverage. Simply
asking "am I covered in the water" might mean different things to
different insurance agents....and this might explain why some of our
members get different answers from the same company. Make sure to
use the example of cruising the lake and hitting another boat...will
the policy cover the damage to Amphi AND the other boat.

Marc Schlemmer.
(I use Hagerty, and am happy)
 
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amphi_sc

Guest
--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Schlemmer" <mschlem@...>
wrote:
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> All this discussion about coverage in water sounds like the concern
> is paying for your Amphi if it sinks in the water. My understanding,
> and I've been told this by several insurance companies including
> Hagerty, is that all of the companies will cover Amphi if it
> sinks....the only issue is the liabilty side of the policy. For
> instance, if you're driving your new Ford pick-up that you insured
> with your standard XYZ Insurance company, and you fall asleep and
> drive off the road into a river, sinking the truck, you'd be
> covered. ....

So, does anyone know how Billie fared when he went over the rock dam
while cruising down the river in the middle of the night and had to be
rescued via helicopter from the rocks in the middle of the river? and
the car "salvaged" off the rocks from the raging water? Did who ever
he was insurred with cover it?
 
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I WAS TO HAVE GONE WITH THE SPLASH KINGG, BUT HAD BIRTHDAY TO ATTEND. AS FOR THE TRIP BILLIE TOOK, HE TURNED THE WRONG WAY GETTING INTO THE RIVER RAPIDS. BEACHING ON THE ROCK SAVED HIM GOING INTO THE SHALLOW RAPIDS. HE HAD TO CALL FOR HELP, THE N. J. POLICE, THE Pa. POLICE WERE ALERTED TO HIS PROBLEM AND THEY ARANGED THE HELIO AIR LIFT. I HAPPENED TO MEET ONE OF THE PILOTS AT A SHOW, HE FOUND IT FUNNY AND INTERESTING, PLUS TRICKY. THE AMPHU WAS RECOVERED AT MUCH $$$ AS A PRO HAD TO BE BROUGHT IN. HE HAD TRIED TO RESCUE IT BY TYING A ROPE SROUND A VOULENTER AND FLOAT TO THE CAR, CURRENT WAS SO SWIFT HE'D BE SWEPT RIGHT PAST & COULDNT GET ON BOARD. THE PRO FLOATED AIR BAGS ON A RAFT TO THE CAR TIED THEM ON , THEN FLOATED DOWN STREAM, WHERE BILLY BROUGHT IT ON SHORE. IT SUFFERED SOME DENT DAMAGE, BUT HAS BEEN RESTORED TO OPERATING CONDITION. THE ATHUROTIES WERE WAITING FOR HIM, THEY THREATENED TO BILL HIM FOR THE RESCUE SQUAD FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE RIVER, TRAFIC VIOLATIONS, COURT COSTS ALL THGETHER ABOUT $6000.00+ PLUS FINES. BOTH STATES WERE AFTERHIM, BUT BILLIE BEING BILLIE HE HAS SURVIVED. "OLD CRUSTY", AS IT IS KNOWN IS UP & RUNNING AGAIN, A LITTLE WORSE FOR THE WEAR,& DOES FACE THE POSSIBILITY OF TOTAL RESTORATION SOME DAY. HE IS AS USUAL BUSY REBUILDING OUR LOVED RUST BUCKETS & CONTINUES TO DO EXCELENT WORK. I LOVE HIS "B B Q SPIT' FOR SPINNING THE FRAMES AROUND. MAKES UNDERCARRIGE WORK EASIER. IF HE SEES THIS POSTING HE MIGHT ADD MORE.THAT'S ABOUT ALL, P.J.H.
 
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