What would you trade your Amphi for??

Mike Echemann · Dec 31, 2001

Here you go Mike. You might be able to get a new one soon!!!

http://www.aerocar.com/

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Israel
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 2:14 AM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] What would you trade your Amphi for??

--- Dave Derer <dmd@essex1.com> wrote:
> Amphipoda what is wrong,you are not yourself! I am
> not myself either and
> changing! It is soon to be a new year and plan on
> starting with a new attitude. I can hear the rumble
> of a large displacement engine ...

Dave,

Must be something in the air. Personally, I have been busy pursuing a new
altitude rather than a new attitude. While my Amphi is a keeper, there is not
much else on wheels that inspires me any more. Thus, I have recently been
working towards my Private Pilot certificate. Basically, the only speed limits
in the air are those imposed by the laws of physics.

This raises an interesting hypothetical question. What would you trade your
Amphi for? While I love my Amphicar I must confess that I would trade it
without hesitation for an even rarer Aerocar. Maybe the Smithsonian will give
up theirs!

PERFORMANCE
Top Speed ........Over 110 MPH
Cruising Speed ....Over 100 MPH
Rate of Climb (I st Min @ full load) ...Over 550 FPM

Service Ceiling @ full load ...Over 12,000 Ft,
Cruise Range .....Over 300 Miles
Landing Speed .... 50 MPH

Landing Run (with normal braking) ...300 Ft.
Take-off Run ..... 650 Ft.
Distance to Clear 50 ft. Obstacle .....1225 Ft.
Designed Road Speed (Engine red line)...67 MPH
Road Range .....Over 400 Miles
Fuel Consumption (Cruising)......8 GPH
Road Fuel ConsumptTon ......18 MPG
Time to Change from Plane to Car ......Five Min.

Happy New Year,

Mike Israel
List/Digest Admin
65 Amphi (white)

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Mike Israel · Dec 31, 2001

--- Dave Derer <dmd@essex1.com> wrote:
> Amphipoda what is wrong,you are not yourself! I am
> not myself either and
> changing! It is soon to be a new year and plan on
> starting with a newattitude. I can hear the rumble
> of a large displacement engine ...

Dave,

Must be something in the air. Personally, I have been busy pursuing a new altitude rather than a new attitude. While my Amphi is a keeper, there is not much else on wheels that inspires me any more. Thus, I have recently been working towards my Private Pilot certificate. Basically, the only speed limits in the air are those imposed by the laws of physics.

This raises an interesting hypothetical question. What would you trade your Amphi for? While I love my Amphicar I must confess that I would trade it without hesitation for an even rarer Aerocar. Maybe the Smithsonian will give up theirs!

PERFORMANCE
Top Speed ........Over 110 MPH
Cruising Speed ....Over 100 MPH
Rate of Climb (I st Min @ full load) ...Over 550 FPM

Service Ceiling @ full load ...Over 12,000 Ft,
Cruise Range .....Over 300 Miles
Landing Speed .... 50 MPH

Landing Run (with normal braking) ...300 Ft.
Take-off Run ..... 650 Ft.
Distance to Clear 50 ft. Obstacle .....1225 Ft.
Designed Road Speed (Engine red line)...67 MPH
Road Range .....Over 400 Miles
Fuel Consumption (Cruising)......8 GPH
Road Fuel ConsumptTon ......18 MPG
Time to Change from Plane to Car ......Five Min.

Happy New Year,

Mike Israel
List/Digest Admin
65 Amphi (white)


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Mike Israel · Dec 31, 2001

Mike,
No, it will never fly!! Experimental Aircraft are just not the same. Too many
restrictions and you can forget about life insurance.
The cool thing about the original is that it did receive FAA (then CAA)
certification. Unfortunately, the current legal and regulatory environment is
such that we will likely never again see another real attempt to mass produce an
Amphicar or Aerocar. The first crash or drowning would litigate any
manufacturer right out of business.
Glad to see that I am not the only one spending New Years Eve in front of the
computer!!
Mike Israel
Mike Echemann <echemike@earthlink.net> wrote: Here you go Mike. You might be
able to get a new one soon!!!

http://www.aerocar.com/

Mike

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Ren? Pohl · Jan 1, 2002

Mike,
don?t be too sure about it will never fly. I met Ed Sweeny some years ago
and he seemed to have some right relations to the flight inspection (do you
call it CAA?). And he seems to have made quite progress in development
since.
However there is a flying car built here in Germany and actually is
certificated for road AND air. It bases on microlight wings attached to a
three wheeler. The vehicle does about 30mph on road only, I am afraid. But
the inventor is creating a Triphibian at the moment, a vehicle that can fly,
swim AND drive on roads. The clue is, that with the foldable wings you can
take them with you whereever you go on land.
So time to dream on...
Ren?

----- Original Message -----
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To: <echemike@earthlink.net>; <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] What would you trade your Amphi for??

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> Mike,
> No, it will never fly!! Experimental Aircraft are just not the same.
Too many restrictions and you can forget about life insurance.
> The cool thing about the original is that it did receive FAA (then CAA)
certification. Unfortunately, the current legal and regulatory environment
is such that we will likely never again see another real attempt to mass
produce an Amphicar or Aerocar. The first crash or drowning would litigate
any manufacturer right out of business.
> Glad to see that I am not the only one spending New Years Eve in front of
the computer!!
> Mike Israel
> Mike Echemann <echemike@earthlink.net> wrote: Here you go Mike. You
might be able to get a new one soon!!!
>
> http://www.aerocar.com/
>
> Mike
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David Chapman · Jan 1, 2002

>Mike,
>don?t be too sure about it will never fly. I met Ed Sweeny some years ago
>and he seemed to have some right relations to the flight inspection (do you
>call it CAA?).

>the inventor is creating a Triphibian at the moment, a vehicle that can fly,
>swim AND drive on roads. The clue is, that with the foldable wings you can
>take them with you whereever you go on land.
>So time to dream on...
>Ren?

CAA is the UK name, the Americans know is as the FAA.

Aerocar looks interesting, but there is a lot to do, that version of the Elise
is no longer made and I can't see the point of removing the best part of the car
(the powerful, reliable and light VTec 4 cylinder engine) and replacing it with
a large heavy and old technology V8, maybe it's just an American thing !

Wonder if anything will come of the moller ( www.moller.com ) They produce some
great posters but nothing seems to be hapenning with their flying car !

When it comes to trading Amphicar, I would be most interested in an Amphicar
with a hybrid engine, still petrol on land but electric in the water - removes a
lot of environmental protest issues so opens up much more water to use, and
would be near silent. I am really going to have a go with the rebuild of second
Amphicar hopefully starting this year. I think '02 is going to be a great
Amphibiyear, I'm booked for Mount Dora (including all of the family for 2 weeks
as it's only an hour from DisneyWorld) and at the moment I'm trying to find the
best way to get travel the 1000 miles to Italy in May - as I will be travelling
on my own for that event I'm seriously considering driving Amphicar there under
it's own power !

David Chapman

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