water in fram

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watercar64

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I drilled 1/2 " hole in my fram , and found water in it
Iused a vacum to get it out , and got about 3/4 gal out of
each side , should I dill a biger hole , and try to get it
dry , . how should I get antirust inside the fram /
and if I can , should I fill the fram up with
Foam , foam should stop the water from getting in
again , how should i get the rest of the
water water out , drill a drain hole in the fram
Is foam the anser!!
?
 
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a_colo_native

Guest
>>>>>I drilled 1/2 " hole in my fram , and found water in it
Iused a vacum to get it out , and got about 3/4 gal out of
each side , should I dill a biger hole , and try to get it
dry , . how should I get antirust inside the fram /
and if I can , should I fill the fram up with
Foam , foam should stop the water from getting in
again , how should i get the rest of the
water water out , drill a drain hole in the fram
Is foam the anser!!

Ross,

Be careful how big a hole and where you drill! Keep in mind it is
the frame which supports the car and you don't want to weaken it. I
would not go larger than 1/8" - 1/4" Diameter. Another thing is
NEVER NEVER NEVER fill any of your Amphi with foam! It will
accelerate the rust process by trapping water rather than allowing
it to flow out or evaporate. This holds true for the 1/4 panels too.
I have seen quite a few rusted out because of this well
intentioned "fix".

Try Bilgy's suggestion about the Amsoil products.

John
 
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John Friese

Guest
Hello Ross,

Check the January/February 2004 newsletter for a Tech Center article
that I did about water in the frame rails. This hidden and rarely
talked about problem can cause serious damage if ignored.

I chose to drill 1 1/8" inspection holes in the top of the frame
rails a few inches ahead of the transmission mounts. This top
surface of the rail doesn't carry any significant load and will
afford a good view into the rails. If your car tends to get water in
it, you can put rubber plugs into the holes that will keep most of
the water out of the rails when sailing. I also installed drains at
the front of the rails and these details are shown in photographs in
the article.

John Friese
67 White
67 Red





--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "watercar64"
<ross.donaldf@c...> wrote:
>
> I drilled 1/2 " hole in my fram , and found water in it
> Iused a vacum to get it out , and got about 3/4 gal out of
> each side , should I dill a biger hole , and try to get it
> dry , . how should I get antirust inside the fram /
> and if I can , should I fill the fram up with
> Foam , foam should stop the water from getting in
> again , how should i get the rest of the
> water water out , drill a drain hole in the fram
> Is foam the anser!!
> ?
 
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WB6WSN

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I drilled 1/2 " hole in my fram , and found water in it
Iused a vacum to get it out , and got about 3/4 gal out of
each side , should I dill a biger hole , and try to get it
dry , . how should I get antirust inside the fram /
and if I can , should I fill the fram up with
Foam , foam should stop the water from getting in
again , how should i get the rest of the
water water out , drill a drain hole in the fram
Is foam the anser!!
?

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<font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">I would make sure that the frame tube internal surfaces are bone-dry. Drill a second hole at the far end of each frame tube. Try taking a hiar dryer, set to low heat, and aim the air flow into one hole. Let it go for a few hours, then use an inspection mirror to view the frame interior, from each end. Repeat until totally dry. You can also thread a wire from hole to hole, and pull a small wad of cloth through the tube. You also may try to insert a short length of copper tubing, connected to your air compressor, and blast the crud out of the frame. Maybe taping the vacuum cleaner hose to one frame hole might be helpful too.</font>
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<font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">You can then spray paint or preservative into the frame tubes. (Easier said than done.) John's technique of drilling an access hole from the steering linkage well, horizontally into the frame end, is extreme, but offers the best access. You can just use a rod or dowel, with a swab soaked in your preservative of choice, and coat the frame interioras if you were cleaningthe inside of a cannon barrel.</font>
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<font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">Other techniques of spraying or sloshing or swabbing through access holes are less satisfctory. OTOH, the worst rust problem is on the bottom edge of the frame tubes, so at least covering the bottom is a lot better than nothing.</font>
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<font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">Foam hasfour problems. It has to withstand long-term exposure to oil & gas & antifreeze without turning into a gummy goo. Foam will keep the water out of the foam only; water will creep along at the foam / metal interface, allowing rust. The foam hides the rust activity, so you usually don't notice the rust untill its very bad. And then the foam makes the repair job even harder.</font>
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<font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">Ed
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67 Rust Guppy
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