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Robert Vondracek

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Amphicars have experienced a significant amount of appreciation in value over
the last decade. A buyer that I sold a high-end car to asked me what a car that
now is worth $65 would have sold for in 1996? I have an opinion, but I wanted
to hear what other people thought.

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Bill Connelly

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Rob,

As you know, much has changed in past decade:

- The internet has changed what used to be a local or fringe
enthusiasts' market with mostly small text-only classifed ads in
newpapers, the Club newsletter or maybe Haynes Motor News for your
confirmed "collector types" into a national or even international
marketplace of online ads with color photos.

- eBay then fanned the already-rising prices, or at least the
EXPECTATIONS of same (since we all know a lot of those big bids often
never materialize as hard cash in an actual sale, right?).

- Another expectations flame-fanner was that recent auction where two
guys in a pissing contest bid an Amphi right up to $124,000. Sure it
was a NICE Amphi, but now even guys like me with "less than pristine"
rides assume our ratty wares deserve a nearby spot in the big bucks
arena too. Never mind that the upholstery looks like several generations
of cats had their kittens on it, or that the several layers of touch up
paint on the patched and re-patched quarterpanels looks like it was
applied by volunteers from the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind with
straws...

- The recent housing bubble and its equity credit gravy train meant a
LOT more "easy money" chasing available Amphis.

So what would a $65K "high end" Amphi today have gone for in '96, before
most of the above fundamental changes in the very nature of the
marketplace itself took hold? Well, if memory serves, one of the
priciest Amphis I recall from about that time had an asking price of
$28K...And at that price it stayed unsold a long long time. Remember,
that was back when any number of very decent "mid-range" swimmers could
be had for $10K to $12K.

For a sobering trip down Amphicar Price Memory Lane, why not check out
those earliest online Club Classifieds on the "Wayback Machine" at
www.archive.org...

Regards,
Bilgey


On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 5:56 pm, Robert Vondracek wrote:
> Amphicars have experienced a significant amount of appreciation in
> value over the last decade. A buyer that I sold a high-end car to asked
> me what a car that now is worth $65 would have sold for in 1996? I have
> an opinion, but I wanted to hear what other people thought.
>
> All Things Amphicar & Trailer
> Robert Vondracek
> 219-405-1241
> http://www.allthingsamphicar.com
>
>
 
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lah20car@aol.com

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In a message dated 9/17/2007 9:07:21 AM Central Daylight Time, amphicar770@yahoo.com writes:
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Georgia" color="#000000" size="2">Hmm, tell Roger Sallee that I will take the white '64 off his hands at his asking price of $9,500!!</font></blockquote>

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Bill Connelly

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<font size="2">Just as a quick followup to the following, here is alink to the earliest available archived Amphicar Classifieds of Yore thanks to Archive.org'sWayback Machine:</font>
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<font size="2">- Club Classifieds of February 12, 1998(Note the factory originalyellow car for sale!)</font>
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<font size="2">Unfortunately, the Wayback Machine didn't get around to archiving the old classifieds of the Amphicar.net Parts Bazaar until July 2000.</font>
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<font size="2">----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Connelly
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] values


Rob,

As you know, much has changed in past decade:

- The internet has changed what used to be a local or fringe
enthusiasts' market with mostly small text-only classifed ads in
newpapers, the Club newsletter or maybe Haynes Motor News for your
confirmed "collector types" into a national or even international
marketplace of online ads with color photos.

- eBay then fanned the already-rising prices, or at least the
EXPECTATIONS of same (since we all know a lot of those big bids often
never materialize as hard cash in an actual sale, right?).

- Another expectations flame-fanner was that recent auction where two
guys in a pissing contest bid an Amphi right up to $124,000. Sure it
was a NICE Amphi, but now even guys like me with "less than pristine"
rides assume our ratty wares deserve a nearby spot in the big bucks
arena too. Never mind that the upholstery looks like several generations
of cats had their kittens on it, or that the several layers of touch up
paint on the patched and re-patched quarterpanels looks like it was
applied by volunteers from the Columbia Lighthouse for the Blind with
straws...

- The recent housing bubble and its equity credit gravy train meant a
LOT more "easy money" chasing available Amphis.

So what would a $65K "high end" Amphi today have gone for in '96, before
most of the above fundamental changes in the very nature of the
marketplace itself took hold? Well, if memory serves, one of the
priciest Amphis I recall from about that time had an asking price of
$28K...And at that price it stayed unsold a long long time. Remember,
that was back when any number of very decent "mid-range" swimmers could
be had for $10K to $12K.

For a sobering trip down Amphicar Price Memory Lane, why not check out
those earliest online Club Classifieds on the "Wayback Machine" at
www.archive.org...

Regards,
Bilgey

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 5:56 pm, Robert Vondracek wrote:
> Amphicars have experienced a significant amount of appreciation in
> value over the last decade. A buyer that I sold a high-end car to asked
> me what a car that now is worth $65 would have sold for in 1996? I have
> an opinion, but I wanted to hear what other people thought.
>
> All Things Amphicar & Trailer
> Robert Vondracek
> 219-405-1241
> </font><font size="2">http://www.allthingsamphicar.com</font>
 
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Mike Israel

Guest
Hmm, tell Roger Sallee that I will take the white '64 off his hands at his
asking price of $9,500!!



----- Original Message ----
From: Bill Connelly <amphicar@cox.net>
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:44:00 AM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] values

Just as a quick followup to the following, here is a link to the earliest
available archived Amphicar Classifieds of Yore thanks to Archive.org' s Wayback
Machine:

- Club Classifieds of February 12, 1998 (Note the factory original yellow car
for sale!)

Unfortunately, the Wayback Machine didn't get around to archiving the old
classifieds of the Amphicar.net Parts Bazaar until July 2000.

Bilgey
 
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