Transmission Seal

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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
...okay, it's been discussed recently here on the Digest, and I have
convinced myself that the seal between the land and water transmission needs
to be replaced.
I replaced that exact seal four years ago or so.....so I was hard to
convince that it needed replacing again, but after watching the oil level in
the water transmission drop 1/4" or more overnight while sitting in the
garage, not once, not twice, but three days in a row after refilling each
day, I knew I had to act. No driving...just sitting in the garage. All the
while, the land tranny level rose. (and yes, that dipstick sure does help)
Back when the club sent those dipsticks out, I thought that we'd be seeing
an increase in the inner seal replacement because it was now so easy to
monitor the oil levels. People who didn't know they had a problem now would
realize it!
But in any case...back to my question:
Which direction does the seal go into the transmission? Does the flat side
go toward the land or water trans....or if you'd rather, does the side with
the spring go toward the land or water side. I'm confident that when I
replaced the seal the first time that I put it in the same way I took the
old one out, but I have no idea if it might have been replaced once before
and fitted incorrectly. Someone had been in there before me from the looks
of the beating on the cover when they tried to remove it. It may have been
put in wrong by them, and I repeated their error.
I will of course be looking for any other problems that might explain my
leaking while I'm in there, but want to make sure the seal is in correctly.
Any help would be appreciated, as I could not find anything in the manuals
that help clarify this.
I'm headin' into it Saturday!

thanks,
Marc Schlemmer
 
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rdboggie@juno.com

Guest
Transmission Seal Replacement might make a good tech session at Celina if the
agenda is not already set. Would certainly help me prepare for what I might be
confronting some day.

Randy
Gaithersburg
 
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Brian Crombie

Guest
Marc,
I just put a tranny seal in mine last weekend. Like you, I placed it how the
old one came out. Once mine was installed, you would see the flat side. Or the
flat side faces the clutch. Bob at Gordon's also reccomended that you take a
center punch and put a dent right next to the seal in the tranny housing to
prevent movement. What your doing is placing a burr if you will, in the path of
the seal. I did this and beleive it will cure any possible movement. If you
elect to go this route, don't use a skinny nail set punch as I started to do but
rather a more blunt punch. Mr. Wave recommended once that an epoxy product that
started with Indian something be used for the same reason. I've got the name
written down in my shop. Let me know if you want it or give Dave a holler.
Hope that helps you out.

Brian Crombie
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Schlemmer
But in any case...back to my question:
Which direction does the seal go into the transmission? Does the flat side
go toward the land or water trans....or if you'd rather, does the side with
the spring go toward the land or water side.

thanks,
Marc Schlemmer



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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
Thanks, Brian....but it sounds like you're referring to the seal at the
input shaft of the tranny by the clutch. I'm replacing and asking about the
seal inside...between the land and water transmission.

thanks, tho.
Marc.
 
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Michael Echemann

Guest
Brain & Marc:
That would be Indian Head Gasket Shellac Compound. It's made by Permatex and
usuall comes in a smaller brown plastic bottle.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Crombie
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Transmission Seal


Marc,
I just put a tranny seal in mine last weekend. Like you, I placed it how the
old one came out. Once mine was installed, you would see the flat side. Or the
flat side faces the clutch. Bob at Gordon's also reccomended that you take a
center punch and put a dent right next to the seal in the tranny housing to
prevent movement. What your doing is placing a burr if you will, in the path of
the seal. I did this and beleive it will cure any possible movement. If you
elect to go this route, don't use a skinny nail set punch as I started to do but
rather a more blunt punch. Mr. Wave recommended once that an epoxy product that
started with Indian something be used for the same reason. I've got the name
written down in my shop. Let me know if you want it or give Dave a holler.
Hope that helps you out.

Brian Crombie
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Schlemmer
But in any case...back to my question:
Which direction does the seal go into the transmission? Does the flat side
go toward the land or water trans....or if you'd rather, does the side with
the spring go toward the land or water side.

thanks,
Marc Schlemmer



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rogtwo@aol.com

Guest
Marc,

I delayed answering your question because I've never done anything with my
transmission, so I have no practical experience. I hoped one of the experts
would answer you, but since that hasn't happened yet ....

The engineering answer is as follows: The spring side of the seal goes to the
higher pressure side, i.e., it goes to the side that has the higher fluid
level. In this case, that would be the water transmission side.

Of course, before you follow my advice, you might want to consider the
following story. When I got my car last year, the boots on the drive shafts
were
obviously not keeping the water out of the slip joint. So I went about
replacing them.

I checked my reference books, I asked my brother (previously an auto
mechanic), and I listened to the advice posted here. They all agreed that two
halves
of the drive shaft had to be aligned correctly so that it won't vibrate. I
even noticed when I did the second shaft, that someone had previous misaligned
it.

So, I've been driving my car for 6 months now, and it has had a vibration.
At first I thought I had a tire out-of-balance. But, the symptoms said
misaligned U-joints -- but I'm sure I installed those correctly!! So, this time
when
I went to grease the U-joints, I checked the shafts. You knew it, one of
them was 90 degrees off. HOW DID I DO THAT??? :eek: :eek:

I realigned the shaft, and guess what? NO VIBRATION!

Roger
White '63
Seattle


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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
Thanks, Roger! I agree with you....I thought that it should go spring side
facing the water transmission as well. When I got into the unit, the old
seal was in that way, so I put the new one in that way, too. I hope we're
right!
Amphi is back together now...filled with oil....and he's going to sit
overnight and see if his fluids are still in place tomorrow. Then a test
drive.

thanks,
Marc.
 
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