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martyandcaryl@charter.net

Guest
We have a set of black wall tires that were on our Amphi when we
purchased it, we have since purchased new white walls and will not be
needing the old set and will be willing to bring them to Celina and
give them to a Amphi.
They are:
Sears Dynaglass 25
B78-13
The tread width is 5.5 inches.
4-ply tread, 2-ply sidewall.
They have about ? the tread as new.
They are not new tires by any means.
We think all 4 tubes are still with them, I just saw 3 for sure.
If you want them, please let us know B4 Celina and we will bring them
to you.
Marty & Caryl
 
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Bill Connelly

Guest
...We think all 4 tubes are still with them, I just saw 3 for sure.
If you want them, please let us know B4 Celina and we will bring them
to you.
Marty & Caryl


I could use those tubes. A couple of years ago I replaced my "weevil hors
d'oeurves" original CEAT tires with some perfectly nice used Coker wide
whitewalls thanks to Mark Braunstein, who was upgrading his 1500 Spitfire
engined "Muscle Amphi" to radials, but my tubes are probably still the
originals and whatever you've got are probably in better shape...

~Bilgemaster~
 
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pfgbrian@aol.com

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2">Hello all! What type of tire is everyone using out there? Where do you buy
them? $$$$? Thanks in advance for the input!

Brian in CA</font>
 
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Mike Israel

Guest
--- pfgbrian@aol.com wrote:
> What type of tire is everyone using out
> there? Where do you buy
> them? $$$$?

I am using the wide whitewall tires available either
from Gordon Imports or directly from
http://www.widewhitewaltires.com
A bit pricey for a small tire, I think they were
approx $100 each but I a may be off.

I have had them for a few years now, very happy with
them. Bias ply tires are nice for originality but if
you actually want to drive your car then radials are
the way to go.

Mike Israel
65 Amphi (white)
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Eric Mattlin

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Mark Richardson pointed out the way to go if you want originality.
When I bought mine the steel belted wide whites weren't available.

I really wanted the steel belted radials as they had made a huge
difference in my 67 Lincoln.

Based on a recommendation from Hugh on Size and my Mechanic couple
with a perverse sense of humor I went with the Goodyear Aquatreads.

I like them. They ride nice at 70 and they were under $50 installed
(that is most likely not a price you'll get elsewhere as my tire guy
really likes me. I'm sure he cut me a deal).

Don't forget tubes (I know some people don't believe n this) and make
sure that you remove the paper tag from inside the tire. Mine didn't
and it will rub a hole through the tube.




--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., pfgbrian@a... wrote:
> Hello all! What type of tire is everyone using out there? Where do
you buy
> them? $$$$? Thanks in advance for the input!
> Brian in CA
 
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David Derer

Guest
I have used both bias and radial. The improvement with radials is
minimal because of Amphi's design. I prefer the way the bias ply looks.
Jack I certainly was thinking of you when I went to pick up your new
Amphi. I started a spot at midwestamphicar.com for your car. I know I
gave Margie and the kids an extra hug when we all got home. My concerns
of that day seem so very trivial now. Later Dave the Wave
 
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tazman3115@aol.com

Guest
I hope this is not inappropriate for the list. I just bought a set of radials
for my car and have a set of like new Coker wide white tires. They have about
200 miles on them and still have the little nubs on them. They are the bias
type tires and I prefer radials. I would like to get about $100.00 each to
offset the cost of the new tires.
I can bring them to Celina to save on shipping if you are interested. Please
respond offline. Charles Reiner email TAZMAN3115@aol.com
 
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Mike Israel

Guest
Re: Re: tires

Charles,

This type of posting is perfectly acceptable.

I have no issues with persons posting Amphi related
items that they have for sale. I would actually
encourage such exchanges. The only caveat is that it
generally should not be in association with a
commercial business.

Posting a set of tires for sale is not a problem. If,
on the other hand, Coker tire were utilizing the list
as an advertisting medium to sell tires it would be
another story. In that case, as list owner, I might
be willing to accept such postings in exchange for a
new set of tires. :)

Regards,

Mike Israel

--- tazman3115@aol.com wrote:
> I hope this is not inappropriate for the list. I
> just bought a set of radials
> for my car and have a set of like new Coker wide
> white tires. They have about
> 200 miles on them and still have the little nubs on
> them. They are the bias
> type tires and I prefer radials. I would like to get
> about $100.00 each to
> offset the cost of the new tires.
> I can bring them to Celina to save on shipping if
> you are interested. Please
> respond offline. Charles Reiner email
> TAZMAN3115@aol.com
>


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Michael Echemann

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Does anyone know if original tires which have a flat spot from sitting for years
will smooth out if driven a bit?
Thanks,
Mike

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markamsdill@aol.com

Guest
Dear Mike,Hello, Your tires may round out if they arent too old and hard. Bias
ply tires will always get a flat spot but will smooth out after they warm up
from driving a couple of miles. I had a set of radials on a vette that were too
old and hard and I had to throw them out. Chances are if they dont smooth out
after a couple of miles they never will. When you store a car you should either
remove the wheels and tires , jack the car up on stands, or overinflate the
tires to prevent tire flat spots.Good luck, Mark 62 BlueAmphi
 
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Mike @ BPI Group

Guest
Check to see if they are Nylon. They have been nicknamed square tires. They
will relax after several miles of driving. They need to be heated up

Mike May

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Echemann [mailto:echemike@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 10:11 AM
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Tires

Does anyone know if original tires which have a flat spot from sitting for
years will smooth out if driven a bit?
Thanks,
Mike

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tommyintpa@aol.com

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In a message dated 5/19/03 11:31:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
echemike@sbcglobal.net writes:


> Does anyone know if original tires which have a flat spot from sitting for
> years will smooth out if driven a bit?
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Hi Mike,
If they look good on the outside (not weather checked) and they get round in
a while as you drive they may be OK. I don't think that I would go much over
40 mph or so, if one comes apart even at that slow speed it probably wont be
fun. Forty year old tires would probably make great display tires but I don't
think I would ever have the nerve to go very fast on the road with them.
Be careful buddy,
Tommy in Tampa
Red '68 Weird Harold

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Michael Echemann

Guest
Thanks Tommy:
The tires are all new with the dimples all around but with flat spots from
sitting in one spot for years. I'd love to keep them intact but wouldn't be
able to drive much on them at any speed. I don't think they will smooth out
anyway. They sure do vibrate the little car around though! This particular
car has real low miles and I was hoping to change as little as possible. Had
a new top installed today, again old one perfect but shrunk up on sides a bit.
I guess I'll just order up some tires from cokers when I can and drive it some.
I'm still pumped from the great weekend out at Dave the Waves that I feel like
going swimming again anyway.

Now where is that countdown clock the bilgemaster usually puts together for
Celina???? Hope to see you and Lynne there again this year. Do you have plans
to come? Chris and I hope to get down to Mt.Dora sometime too. We are thinking
about it next year and hitting Disneyland too with out two younger kids.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: tommyintpa@aol.com
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Tires


In a message dated 5/19/03 11:31:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
echemike@sbcglobal.net writes:


> Does anyone know if original tires which have a flat spot from sitting for
> years will smooth out if driven a bit?
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Hi Mike,
If they look good on the outside (not weather checked) and they get round in
a while as you drive they may be OK. I don't think that I would go much over
40 mph or so, if one comes apart even at that slow speed it probably wont be
fun. Forty year old tires would probably make great display tires but I don't
think I would ever have the nerve to go very fast on the road with them.
Be careful buddy,
Tommy in Tampa
Red '68 Weird Harold

exuberance is bliss - P. T. Barnum


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Bill Connelly

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Does anyone know if original tires which have a flat spot from sitting for
years will smooth out if driven a bit?
Thanks,
Mike

============

The original CEAT tires that came with my Amphi, were still holding about
5-10 lbs. air 14 years after parked in a shed in Poughkeepsie, but were
noticeably "mashed". Once I got the Amphi patched up and on the road, the
tires did round right out and even lasted a few of years....maybe 10,000
miles, until one of them got chewed to shreds by those trenches pressed into
the NJ turnpike by streams of rumbling 16 wheelers. I should add that the
CEATs were in pretty fair shape, with just some scarcely visible signs of
cracking on the surface, but they've since been replaced by Coker Classics.
In the end, there's no getting around the fact that 40 year old rubber is
still 40 year old rubber, no matter how sound it looks. Although it was a
very hot day--in the high 90s--when the Turnpike ate my passenger rear
original CEAT, I suspect my current Cokers would have coped.

When in any doubt...even a HINT of doubt, then replacement is clearly the
wise move.

~Bilgey~
 
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Gord Souter

Guest
I RUN 185 WWW ON ALL MY CARS
On a trip to Key West last year in my green 62
I blew a rear tire.I had been driving the car for a year with no spacers,but
never had a load for long distance. this trip we had 3 large guys in the
car. the extra weight made the tire rub on spring and brake line bracket.
the tire BLEW!!!there was a transport right behind me , just about ran me
over.
I have had a few spacers made up.they cost me $24 each to make I am selling
A FEW FOR $26.00 EACH.

Gord Souter,Canadian 4 amphs,
3860 Carlyon line
RR4 ORILLIA ONT.
L3V 6H4

MY new phone # is 1 705 327 2820

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Michael Echemann

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Re: RE: TIRES

We have a 64 green car which we used most of the time. It has a problem
with the front tires (mainly the right front) rubbing against the spring in
a turn. The problems was minor with the original shocks but when I replaced
them with Gordons front shocks the problem became worse. I ordered up and
installed a set of Gords spacers but they didn't seem to provide any relief
at all. The alignment seems fine and the car drives and tracks perfectly.
The tires are from Coker but not the classics. I have the BF Goodrich
640-13's. I don't notice it when driving as I don't turn that sharp however
parking and in and out of spaces is a real issue. I think even though they
are the original size these tires may be a bit wider in spots. I can't
think of any other explanation. Amphicar must have had some issue with this
subject as some cars (early ones) seemed to have had spacers installed. I
wonder what it was and what was done to resolve it.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gord Souter" <houseboats@encode.com>
To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:09 AM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] RE: TIRES


I RUN 185 WWW ON ALL MY CARS
On a trip to Key West last year in my green 62
I blew a rear tire.I had been driving the car for a year with no spacers,but
never had a load for long distance. this trip we had 3 large guys in the
car. the extra weight made the tire rub on spring and brake line bracket.
the tire BLEW!!!there was a transport right behind me , just about ran me
over.
I have had a few spacers made up.they cost me $24 each to make I am selling
A FEW FOR $26.00 EACH.

Gord Souter,Canadian 4 amphs,
3860 Carlyon line
RR4 ORILLIA ONT.
L3V 6H4

MY new phone # is 1 705 327 2820

I buy, sell and restore Only Amphicars
over 700 different parts for sale.
Interior kits and fibreglass panels my specialty!


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Ed Price

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After a lot of net research, I finally settled on the tires that I wanted to put
on my Amphi. I selected the Cooper Dominator All-season P175/70R-13 82S
black-wall models, which cost me a total (mounting on loose rims, valve stems,
dynamic balance and 50k miles warranty) of $241 at Discount Tire.

http://www.discounttire.com

I chose this tire for its ratings on wet traction, and I liked the design of the
tread. I had been leaning toward the Yokohama Avid All-season touring tires, but
ultimately rejected those since they have a pair of continuous center
circumfrential ribs on the tread, and I find that tires with these ribs are very
sensitive to the grooving used on our local freeways (CalTrans cuts slits into
the concrete surface to help shed rainwater; when the ribbed tires catch the
groove pattern just wrong, they give you a lateral "squiggly" feel). True, I'm
not expecting to drive my Amphi at 80 MPH, but it was enough to tip the balance
toward the Dominators.

The Dominator tread pattern is nicely open (I think the term for this is "wide
sipes"), and has gotten great reviews for snow traction. OK, so what does snow
traction have to do with Amphi tire selection? Well, the official ratings for
wet traction are really a measure of how well a tire avoids hydroplaning at
speed. While this is important, I was really thinking about traction at very low
speed. I wanted a tire tread that got a good grip on a moss-covered concrete
ramp and on loose gravel. Needless to say, this isn't one of the official tire
rating tests. I felt that a tire that gets a good grip in snow and slush would
be the best choice for ramp traction too.

The ideal is a tractor-style tread, but this would yield far too much vibration
at any speed on a surfaced road. The next best is the military-style tread
pattern; this can be used on a road, but will yield a lot of noise (tire noise
is the least of your concerns if you're driving a 2-ton 6x6). When you finally
get to winter or all-season tires, your choices are pretty limited in a 13"
wheel size.

According to calculations, the 175/70-13 tire should be slightly (about 3.2%)
smaller in OD then the original 6.40-13. OTOH, the "standard rim width" for a
13" wheel is 5", but our Amphis have a 4.5" rim width. Since the 4.5" width
holds the tire beads closer together, this will make the tire stand a bit taller
than calculated, so I think the errors pretty well cancel out.

I also decided to not use any tubes. I based my decision on the fact that the
Amphi rim flanges seem quite deep, and the fact that a 13" wheel will take more
side-loading that a larger rim before the tire bead deflects away from the rim.
I think it's a safe call, as Amphis don't really ever experience slalom racing.
However, only some time and road miles will tell if this was a dumb idea.

Anyway, the new tires fit and look great mounted on the Amphi rims.

Ed
El Cajon
67 Rust Guppy



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John Friese

Guest
Hi Ed,

I think you are guilty of "over thinking" this tire thing. I used to
do that a lot and usually found that I either missed some factor or I
simply had false information about the tires in question. I found
that Michelin thinks these things through better than I could and I've
never been unhappy with their tires. I don't use them on my Amphicars
though since they don't make a wide white wall version and I like the
original look.

On a convertible, I would be much more concerned about tread noise
from my tires than I would about slipping on the boat ramps. I've
never had any slippage whatsoever on the ramps and I'm not using all
weather type of tires. I've had some horribly noisy all weather tires
in the past however and I couldn't wait for them to wear out. (Five
of my six cars are convertibles.)

The problem with not using inner tubes on these cars is that if you
are wrong about them holding on to the rim, the car could flip when
the tire suddenly collapses in a sharp turn. Now that could be a
serious problem. Without tubes you also aren't able to reduce the
pressure in your front tires very much without really getting into
dangerous territory and low front tire pressure may be a requirement
to get these cars to track well. I run the specified 14 lbs. on the
fronts of my White car, with bias ply Coker Classics, and it tracks
perfectly. Another thing is that when I restored my cars I noted rust
on the insides of some of the wheel rims and if water can get in, air
can get out.

Good Luck, (we need all the So. Cal Amphi people we can muster)

John Friese
Santa Barbara

67 White
67 Red



--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Price" <wb6wsn@c...> wrote:
> After a lot of net research, I finally settled on the tires that I
wanted to put on my Amphi. I selected the Cooper Dominator All-season
P175/70R-13 82S black-wall models, which cost me a total (mounting on
loose rims, valve stems, dynamic balance and 50k miles warranty) of
$241 at Discount Tire.
>
> http://www.discounttire.com
>
> I chose this tire for its ratings on wet traction, and I liked the
design of the tread. I had been leaning toward the Yokohama Avid
All-season touring tires, but ultimately rejected those since they
have a pair of continuous center circumfrential ribs on the tread, and
I find that tires with these ribs are very sensitive to the grooving
used on our local freeways (CalTrans cuts slits into the concrete
surface to help shed rainwater; when the ribbed tires catch the groove
pattern just wrong, they give you a lateral "squiggly" feel). True,
I'm not expecting to drive my Amphi at 80 MPH, but it was enough to
tip the balance toward the Dominators.
>
> The Dominator tread pattern is nicely open (I think the term for
this is "wide sipes"), and has gotten great reviews for snow traction.
OK, so what does snow traction have to do with Amphi tire selection?
Well, the official ratings for wet traction are really a measure of
how well a tire avoids hydroplaning at speed. While this is important,
I was really thinking about traction at very low speed. I wanted a
tire tread that got a good grip on a moss-covered concrete ramp and on
loose gravel. Needless to say, this isn't one of the official tire
rating tests. I felt that a tire that gets a good grip in snow and
slush would be the best choice for ramp traction too.
>
> The ideal is a tractor-style tread, but this would yield far too
much vibration at any speed on a surfaced road. The next best is the
military-style tread pattern; this can be used on a road, but will
yield a lot of noise (tire noise is the least of your concerns if
you're driving a 2-ton 6x6). When you finally get to winter or
all-season tires, your choices are pretty limited in a 13" wheel size.
>
> According to calculations, the 175/70-13 tire should be slightly
(about 3.2%) smaller in OD then the original 6.40-13. OTOH, the
"standard rim width" for a 13" wheel is 5", but our Amphis have a 4.5"
rim width. Since the 4.5" width holds the tire beads closer together,
this will make the tire stand a bit taller than calculated, so I think
the errors pretty well cancel out.
>
> I also decided to not use any tubes. I based my decision on the fact
that the Amphi rim flanges seem quite deep, and the fact that a 13"
wheel will take more side-loading that a larger rim before the tire
bead deflects away from the rim. I think it's a safe call, as Amphis
don't really ever experience slalom racing. However, only some time
and road miles will tell if this was a dumb idea.
>
> Anyway, the new tires fit and look great mounted on the Amphi rims.
>
> Ed
> El Cajon
> 67 Rust Guppy
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
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Mike Israel

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RE: Re: Tires

John is right on the money. The reason you need tubes has nothing to do with
bia ply or radials. Rather, the Amphi does not have safety rims. Thus, the
risk is as John described, that going around that turn or making a sudden turn
to avoid an accident could result I tire slipping off of rim. Considering how
litlle tubes cost, they seem like smart safety insurance.
 
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