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<font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">David,</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I have had the same experience
as you with stainless systems. Therefore I phoned one of my customers who
produces such systems and asked him about his opinion.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">He claims two reasons:
First is that a stainless system will keep the interior much cleaner compared
to a conventional system. Mild steel corrodes ash and debris from the fumes
sticks to the interior and makes a good sound insulation after a few miles. </span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Second reason is that stainless
steel is more “solid” and less plastic then mild steel, and therefore
transfers more of the vibrations (sound) to the exterior.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">One way to overcome the
problem is to wrap an extra layer of steel over a thin layer of rock-wool or
glass fibre insulation on the outside of the muffler.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I did this with my
muffler, even thou it is a standard mild steel system, and the result is very
obvious!! Less heat in the engine bay and much less noice!</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">V?nliga h?lsningar / Best
regards</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Bo Strander</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">AK OPTIK AB</span></font>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Fr?n:</span> amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] <span style="font-weight:bold">F?r </span>David
Chapman
<span style="font-weight:bold">Skickat:</span> den 28 januari 2007 00:41
<span style="font-weight:bold">Till:</span>
amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
<span style="font-weight:bold">?mne:</span> Re: [amphicar-lovers]
Stainless Steel Muffler Assembly Inquiry ... FELLOW MEMBERS PLEASE RESPOND</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Although I've had a stainless
exhaust system on my Amphi for more than 10 years (custom made by a local
specialist) I probably wouldn't do it again. Stainless makes a lot of sense
under a normal car but I don't think it is really necessary inside an Amphi.
Biggest problem is stainless steel always seemsmore noisy - not sure why
asthe design is the same as a mild steel original.</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">What I'd like to see isa steel
muffler that issuper quiet and super cool - so it would be much large
diameter - maybe 6 or 7 inches -and much longer. It would have proper welded
brackets but be far enough from the engine so it will work in a 1300. Also a
custom J pipe for the 1300 as well as 1147. Finally the outlet angle should be
correct so it looks original from the outside and also the chrome outside bit
fits properly - and the outside bit works better if it's chrome, as well as not
looking better the chrome doesn't tarnish as badly as stainless from water
splashes. </span></font>
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<font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy">David,</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I have had the same experience
as you with stainless systems. Therefore I phoned one of my customers who
produces such systems and asked him about his opinion.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">He claims two reasons:
First is that a stainless system will keep the interior much cleaner compared
to a conventional system. Mild steel corrodes ash and debris from the fumes
sticks to the interior and makes a good sound insulation after a few miles. </span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Second reason is that stainless
steel is more “solid” and less plastic then mild steel, and therefore
transfers more of the vibrations (sound) to the exterior.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">One way to overcome the
problem is to wrap an extra layer of steel over a thin layer of rock-wool or
glass fibre insulation on the outside of the muffler.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I did this with my
muffler, even thou it is a standard mild steel system, and the result is very
obvious!! Less heat in the engine bay and much less noice!</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"></span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">V?nliga h?lsningar / Best
regards</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Bo Strander</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">AK OPTIK AB</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">-----Urspr</span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">ungligt
meddelande-----
<span style="font-weight:bold">Fr?n:</span> amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] <span style="font-weight:bold">F?r </span>David
Chapman
<span style="font-weight:bold">Skickat:</span> den 28 januari 2007 00:41
<span style="font-weight:bold">Till:</span>
amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
<span style="font-weight:bold">?mne:</span> Re: [amphicar-lovers]
Stainless Steel Muffler Assembly Inquiry ... FELLOW MEMBERS PLEASE RESPOND</span></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Although I've had a stainless
exhaust system on my Amphi for more than 10 years (custom made by a local
specialist) I probably wouldn't do it again. Stainless makes a lot of sense
under a normal car but I don't think it is really necessary inside an Amphi.
Biggest problem is stainless steel always seemsmore noisy - not sure why
asthe design is the same as a mild steel original.</span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">What I'd like to see isa steel
muffler that issuper quiet and super cool - so it would be much large
diameter - maybe 6 or 7 inches -and much longer. It would have proper welded
brackets but be far enough from the engine so it will work in a 1300. Also a
custom J pipe for the 1300 as well as 1147. Finally the outlet angle should be
correct so it looks original from the outside and also the chrome outside bit
fits properly - and the outside bit works better if it's chrome, as well as not
looking better the chrome doesn't tarnish as badly as stainless from water
splashes. </span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:65.2pt"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">David C</span></font>
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