Still Wandering

Discussion in 'General Amphicar Discussion' started by Arnold Hite, Nov 25, 2000.

  1. Arnold Hite
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    Arnold Hite Guest

    Mark,
    I have no idea what your clunk noise is. But if it makes you feel any
    better, I also have a couple of misterious sounds. The most troubling is a
    thud somewhere in the back about 20% of the time the car is in a turn, but
    this is in the car that drives straight. . About my wanderer: I drove it
    7 miles to an alignment shop which is the farthest the car has been driven
    since my restoration started 3 years ago. After the usual laughs and
    questions their best guy took a look. Unfortunitaly I wasn't there at the
    time. The report I got was that he was unwilling to do an alignment because
    of berring noise in the right front wheel and a worn bushing on the left
    front. I've pulled off the right hub and located the bad berring, but I
    have no idea what bushing he is talking about. The only "bushings" I can
    see are the rubber gromments in the shocks? Am I missing something or is
    this what he is taking about?
    To all of you that have sent suggestions, thanks. I'm makeing a list ..
    checking it twice ...

    Arnold Hite
    Still Wandering

    > Message: 3
    > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:10:32 -0500
    > From: "Mark Richardson" <markr13@prodigy.net>
    > Subject: Clunk!
    >
    > Thinking more about it, I have a clunk in the right front when jumping
    over things. When the wheels return to mother earth, I have always had this
    noise...
     
  2. Arnold Hite
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    Arnold Hite Guest

    You may remember I have a 64 white that wanders all over the road at about
    45 mph. I had taken it in for an alignment hoping this would fix the
    problem. The alignment shop workers were unwilling to do the alignment
    until I replaced a bad front bearing and an unspecified bushing. I put off
    replacing the bushing because I was uncertain which bushing they were
    talking about, and the one I suspected looked really hard to replace. Also
    that bushing requires three special Amphicar tools including one called the
    "Special Reaming Tool." I did install a new set of bearings in the front
    end. Several of you reminded me to make sure the tire pressure wasn't too
    high in the front tires so I check that too. All was ready yesterday and I
    took the wanderer out for a trial run. NO EFFECT. The car still wanders as
    bad as before. I'm now convinced the problem is a bad bushing. I've
    jacked up both of my Amphies to compare the play in the front ends. The
    steering linkages in both cars are amazingly firm and free of play. Both
    cars have a little vertical play in the front tire assemblies. By this I
    mean if you grab the tire at the 12:00 and 6:00 position, and give it a good
    shake, you can feel the wheel assembly give just a little. The right front
    tire on the wanderer gives considerably more. I don't know why I didn't
    notice this last month when I started this repair.
    I told my wife that I've had enough, and I'm ready to sell this car.
    The other car is in much better shape but is being neglected. She insists
    that we continue the work until the wandering problem, and a few others,
    are resolved. She owns the car. I'm only the pro bono mechanic. I'll call
    Huge next week to get trained on reaming out the new bushing.

    Arnold Hite
    Johns Island, SC
     
  3. Michael Echemann
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    Arnold:
    The tool is quite common and any machine shop should have one. Consider a
    king pin also.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Arnold Hite <ahite@Charleston.Net>
    To: <amphicar-lovers@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:07 PM
    Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Still Wandering


    > You may remember I have a 64 white that wanders all over the road at
    about
    > 45 mph. I had taken it in for an alignment hoping this would fix the
    > problem. The alignment shop workers were unwilling to do the alignment
    > until I replaced a bad front bearing and an unspecified bushing. I put
    off
    > replacing the bushing because I was uncertain which bushing they were
    > talking about, and the one I suspected looked really hard to replace.
    Also
    > that bushing requires three special Amphicar tools including one called
    the
    > "Special Reaming Tool." I did install a new set of bearings in the front
    > end. Several of you reminded me to make sure the tire pressure wasn't too
    > high in the front tires so I check that too. All was ready yesterday and
    I
    > took the wanderer out for a trial run. NO EFFECT. The car still wanders
    as
    > bad as before. I'm now convinced the problem is a bad bushing. I've
    > jacked up both of my Amphies to compare the play in the front ends. The
    > steering linkages in both cars are amazingly firm and free of play. Both
    > cars have a little vertical play in the front tire assemblies. By this I
    > mean if you grab the tire at the 12:00 and 6:00 position, and give it a
    good
    > shake, you can feel the wheel assembly give just a little. The right
    front
    > tire on the wanderer gives considerably more. I don't know why I didn't
    > notice this last month when I started this repair.
    > I told my wife that I've had enough, and I'm ready to sell this car.
    > The other car is in much better shape but is being neglected. She insists
    > that we continue the work until the wandering problem, and a few others,
    > are resolved. She owns the car. I'm only the pro bono mechanic. I'll
    call
    > Huge next week to get trained on reaming out the new bushing.
    >
    > Arnold Hite
    > Johns Island, SC
    >
    >
    >
    >
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  4. Bill Connelly
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    Arnold:

    From the amount of helpful responses you've already received on this topic,
    I guess you could say, like our outgoing Commander-in-Chief, that "We feel
    your pain". Still, apparently this hasn't been enough to solve the mystery
    and the problem. This fact and the fact that you now appear all but ready
    to sell the car in frustration leads me to another fact: Sometimes you've
    just got to turn it over to a Pro.

    I had a similar, if less severe "wandering" problem once upon a time with my
    Amphi. Turns out it was just the crown nuts on the rear axles wanting a bit
    more "heave-ho" than my heaviest 10 inch crescent wrench could provide. Was
    it ME who diagnosed this? Hell no. It was a Pro: Billy Syx of East Coast
    Amphicar. I'm lucky to live close enough in the scheme of things to Billy
    and Randy's "Amphicar Compound" in Mays Landing for the occasional visit.
    It makes for a guaranteed "real nice weekend" to hop in the Amphi and buzz
    on over to Jersey via the Cape May-Lewes Ferry. It's a real pleasant
    afternoon jaunt broken up with a nice little two hour sea voyage across the
    Bay--just enough for the Amphi to really stretch its legs and blow out the
    cobwebs, but not enough to tax it. Billy and Randy often return the favor
    as our frequent houseguests here in Virginia, where we cruise the Potomac
    and Occoquan Rivers, mount amphibious assaults on Mt. Vernon...that kind of
    thing. It was during one of my visits there in Mays Landing, while imposing
    on Billy to do that 2 minute magic brake adjustment he can do, that he
    discovered the cause of my mild handling problems without even having been
    clued in on the fact that I even HAD any handling problems.

    Hence my suggestion: Why not call Billy Syx at 609-625-1015 and see if he
    can squeeze in your meandering Amphi for a proper look-see this Winter.
    Mays Landing is only 688 miles from your place in Johns Island, South
    Carolina--that's just a full day's drive.

    And yes, this has been an unsolicited and unpaid endorsement for East Coast
    Amphicar, whose website is found at http://www.galloweb.com/~amphicar/

    Incidentally, while on the topic of websites, I should let you all know that
    whatever gremlins have suddenly taken up residence on the Amphicar.net
    server to screw up its navigation button labels and some of its other
    formatting squeeds have still not been exorcised. I'm still working on this
    problem with our service supplier's tech folks. Hopefully, we'll correct
    the problem sooner rather than later. In the meantime, folks waiting for
    ads to appear will just have to hang in there.

    Best of Luck!
    ~Bilgemaster~


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Arnold Hite" <ahite@Charleston.Net>
    To: <amphicar-lovers@egroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:07 PM
    Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Still Wandering


    > You may remember I have a 64 white that wanders all over the road at
    about
    > 45 mph. I had taken it in for an alignment hoping this would fix the
    > problem. The alignment shop workers were unwilling to do the alignment
    > until I replaced a bad front bearing and an unspecified bushing. I put
    off
    > replacing the bushing because I was uncertain which bushing they were
    > talking about, and the one I suspected looked really hard to replace.
    Also
    > that bushing requires three special Amphicar tools including one called
    the
    > "Special Reaming Tool." I did install a new set of bearings in the front
    > end. Several of you reminded me to make sure the tire pressure wasn't too
    > high in the front tires so I check that too. All was ready yesterday and
    I
    > took the wanderer out for a trial run. NO EFFECT. The car still wanders
    as
    > bad as before. I'm now convinced the problem is a bad bushing. I've
    > jacked up both of my Amphies to compare the play in the front ends. The
    > steering linkages in both cars are amazingly firm and free of play. Both
    > cars have a little vertical play in the front tire assemblies. By this I
    > mean if you grab the tire at the 12:00 and 6:00 position, and give it a
    good
    > shake, you can feel the wheel assembly give just a little. The right
    front
    > tire on the wanderer gives considerably more. I don't know why I didn't
    > notice this last month when I started this repair.
    > I told my wife that I've had enough, and I'm ready to sell this car.
    > The other car is in much better shape but is being neglected. She insists
    > that we continue the work until the wandering problem, and a few others,
    > are resolved. She owns the car. I'm only the pro bono mechanic. I'll
    call
    > Huge next week to get trained on reaming out the new bushing.
    >
    > Arnold Hite
    > Johns Island, SC
    >
     
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