Starter Problem

  • Thread starter Betty Anne and/or David Field
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Betty Anne and/or David Field

Guest
Before replacing solenoid check for a flat spot on the starter. It's easy
to do since the starter is easily assessible. Simply rotate the starter
shaft a fraction of a turn with your fingers and try starting again (remove
hand first)!
Dave
 
W

www.amph.67@juno.com

Guest
I too had the same problem. I removed the solenoid, drilled a small hole
in the body, sprayed TV tuner cleaner internally, replaced and all worked
well. May have to manually press top button to activate. Has been working
OK now for several years. WD-40 may work as well. Contacts inside become
dirty from arceing.
Also a solenoid from a 64 mstng will work as well, but no push button.
Good luck. P.J.H.
 
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Cap''n John

Guest
--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., www.amph.67@j... wrote:
> I too had the same problem. I removed the solenoid, drilled a small
hole
> in the body, sprayed TV tuner cleaner internally, replaced and all
worked
> well. May have to manually press top button to activate. Has been
working
> OK now for several years. WD-40 may work as well. Contacts inside
become
> dirty from arceing.
> Also a solenoid from a 64 mstng will work as well, but no push
button.
> Good luck. P.J.H.

NEVER use WD-40 for any electrical applications. It is flammable and
it will attract dust dirt. ALWAYS use a dielectric grease or spray
(contact oil).

JB

P.S. Amphi comes home Saturday!!! Wheels painted, buffed and ready!!
 
G

Greg

Guest
Thanks, everyone for all the suggestions on my "no
start" problem. As it turns out, the problem was not
with any loose connections, cables or solenoid. It is
the starter. Verified by bench testing. I'm replying
so the cause is noted in the arhives in case anyone
else has a similar problem in the future. In the
meantime I've been starting it the old fashioned way-
roll down hill in gear and let out the clutch; but
that's a bit hard to do when in the water.
Does anyone have a valid Manufacuturer/part number for
the correct starter? I contacted Napa online and asked
for a starter for a 1962 Triumph and they came back
with a Beck Arnley starter(Napa #187-0011) but it
shows it has a solenoid attached which would not be
correct. Were the Amphi staters different than the
Triumph's? If anyone has purchased one from one of the
auto parts chains and can supply a valid part number,
I would be greatful.
Thanks. G.Z.

--- www.amph.67@juno.com wrote:
> I too had the same problem. I removed the solenoid,
> drilled a small hole
> in the body, sprayed TV tuner cleaner internally,
> replaced and all worked
> well. May have to manually press top button to
> activate. Has been working
> OK now for several years. WD-40 may work as well.
> Contacts inside become
> dirty from arceing.
> Also a solenoid from a 64 mstng will work as well,
> but no push button.
> Good luck. P.J.H.
>
 
M

Mike Echemann

Guest
Greg:
I've purchased several from Pep Boys and Auto Zone. I always ask them to
reference the oldest Triumph Spitfire they can (which is usually the 67) and
it comes in perfect and ready to bolt on. There's alway British Victoria if
want to order one from them. Try Pep Boys if you have one close. There not
expensive and you'll have it the next day. If you need British Victorias
phone number let me know and I'll look it up.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg" <G_Zink_us@yahoo.com>
To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Starter problem


> Thanks, everyone for all the suggestions on my "no
> start" problem. As it turns out, the problem was not
> with any loose connections, cables or solenoid. It is
> the starter. Verified by bench testing. I'm replying
> so the cause is noted in the arhives in case anyone
> else has a similar problem in the future. In the
> meantime I've been starting it the old fashioned way-
> roll down hill in gear and let out the clutch; but
> that's a bit hard to do when in the water.
> Does anyone have a valid Manufacuturer/part number for
> the correct starter? I contacted Napa online and asked
> for a starter for a 1962 Triumph and they came back
> with a Beck Arnley starter(Napa #187-0011) but it
> shows it has a solenoid attached which would not be
> correct. Were the Amphi staters different than the
> Triumph's? If anyone has purchased one from one of the
> auto parts chains and can supply a valid part number,
> I would be greatful.
> Thanks. G.Z.
>
> --- www.amph.67@juno.com wrote:
> > I too had the same problem. I removed the solenoid,
> > drilled a small hole
> > in the body, sprayed TV tuner cleaner internally,
> > replaced and all worked
> > well. May have to manually press top button to
> > activate. Has been working
> > OK now for several years. WD-40 may work as well.
> > Contacts inside become
> > dirty from arceing.
> > Also a solenoid from a 64 mstng will work as well,
> > but no push button.
> > Good luck. P.J.H.
> >
>
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John Friese

Guest
I had something happen today that I haven't heard of before. On the
way back from the lake, suddenly something started to rattle around in
the engine. It turned out that the gear part of the bendix assembly of
the starter had come loose and was rattling around on the shaft. I was
able to press it back into the bendix housing but don't trust it to
stay there. I was thinking a couple of spot welds would hold it in
place and I would keep the starter around for emergencies. I've never
heard of this happening before. Has anyone had such an experience? Of
course, these starters are made by Lucas (the prince of darkness).

John Friese

67 Red
67 White
 
D

David Chapman

Guest
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<font face="Arial" size="2">Never heard of that problem before and that starter was (and still is) used on literally millions of cars. The main problem is on cars that haven't been used much they rust internally and so don't spin when you turn the key, temporaryfix is awhack with a hammer but really need rebuild. </font>
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<font face="Arial" size="2">Second problem is if engine misfires just at the point of starting it can chip the teeth from a part of the flywheel. If engine then stops in exactly the same place again the starter will just spin (known as the Russian Roulette problem) you can fix it with a new flywheel but if you have heat and a press the old starter ring can be removed from the flywheel and turned around. The old manuals say if you change the flywheel you should replace the starter as well. Everyone does here as the starters are still available at low cost.</font>
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<font face="Arial" size="2">The original Amphicar starters (Triumph crica 1961) had a removable plate so the bushes can be changed without removing the starter, works OK on Triumph but no space to do this on Amphicar. The later versions fit the same but don't have the removeable plate - I prefer these as the bushes hardly ever wear enough to need replacing and the cover plate can come loose and rattle. </font>
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<font face="Arial" size="2">Finally there are some lightweight starters available for the Amphicar (listed as 66 Triumph Spitfire) the original is very heavy. These replacements are made of alloy and are much much lighter, some also spin faster so engine starts quicker (but then there is a view that this is not good as it doesn't allow time for oil pressure to build) They are popular with the racers but are expensive. I've got a note here that a US supplier is www.aptfast.com </font>
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<font face="Arial" size="2">David C</font>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: John Friese
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:45 AM
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Starter Problem

<tt>I had something happen today that I haven't heard of before. On the
way back from the lake, suddenly something started to rattle around in
the engine. It turned out that the gear part of the bendix assembly of
the starter had come loose and was rattling around on the shaft. I was
able to press it back into the bendix housing but don't trust it to
stay there. I was thinking a couple of spot welds would hold it in
place and I would keep the starter around for emergencies. I've never
heard of this happening before. Has anyone had such an experience? Of
course, these starters are made by Lucas (the prince of darkness).

John Friese

67 Red
67 White


</tt>
 
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