Shocks

Discussion in 'General Amphicar Discussion' started by Mike Echemann, Jul 15, 2001.

  1. Mike Echemann
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    <font face="Arial" size="2">I'm considering installing a set of Hughs shocks. Can I get some testimonials from anyone using them. Was the ride better? Did they fit correct? Did you install small or large springs on the rear and if large did they rub the tires on an early car? Was there any problem with the wheel drop, ie in the water has anyone experienced an axle shaft pulling out ofthe tranny end. I'll be installing them on a 64 with bolt on in front and small springs in the rear. I guess the rear require the larger springs.</font>

    <font face="Arial" size="2">I'd like to hear how others feel about these shocks. They look nice but are expensive.</font>

    <font face="Arial" size="2">Mike</font>
     
  2. richard martin
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    <font face="Arial" size="2">I installed 2 new rear and 2 new front shocks from Gordens recently and have no problem. It handles better on the road and they look very nice.. The Penguin</font>
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    <font face="Arial" size="2">I'm considering installing a set of Hughs shocks. Can I get some testimonials from anyone using them. Was the ride better? Did they fit correct? Did you install small or large springs on the rear and if large did they rub the tires on an early car? Was there any problem with the wheel drop, ie in the water has anyone experienced an axle shaft pulling out ofthe tranny end. I'll be installing them on a 64 with bolt on in front and small springs in the rear. I guess the rear require the larger springs.</font>

    <font face="Arial" size="2">I'd like to hear how others feel about these shocks. They look nice but are expensive.</font>

    <font face="Arial" size="2">Mike</font>
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  3. wick68355@aol.com
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    <font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2">Last week I ordered the shocks listed in a July article about shocks
    available from the surplus center in Lincoln Nebraska. They did not arrive
    so I called them back. It seems as if the shocks they are selling have some
    sort of a hairline crack and are being sent out to a machine shop to be
    repaired. I will let you know when they arrive and of they will work

    Tim wick

    Wisconsin</font>
     
  4. ivornixon
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    <font color="#000000" size="2">Scott Moses inquired (Jul. 10) about using some kind of standard shock. Back about 15 years ago I was informed that the Porsch Carrera shock could be modified to fir Amphicar. In the case of my 1962 model I was able to use the English Armstrong S62 by cutting 1" off the shaft. This was 10 years ago. I don't know how the prices would now compare with Gordon's.</font>
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    <font color="#000000" size="2">Ivor Nixon</font>
    <font color="#000000" size="2">Carrying Place ON</font>
     
  5. wcapron2001
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    Well it finally happened. My daughter and I headed out for an errand
    and a swim and the Amphi let me down. The left rear shock rod broke.
    This caused the suspension to collapse and altho driveable, there was
    a rubbing noise in the left rear. Knowing how expensive Amphi parts
    are I called a tow truck.
    Upon arrival at home I removed the broken shock and found two things,
    1) it had been bent for a long time as the hole that the rod passes
    thru was worn to an egg shape and 2) the rubbing noise was the clamp
    on the axel boot digging into the tunnel. Another mile or so and it
    would have punched thru.
    Question, What about shocks? Is Gordons the only source? Has anybody
    tried to weld spring mounts onto existing standard type shocks?
    Because I own a Texaco station I have a very good relationship with
    my NAPA parts store. I am going to try and get their help in finding
    a shock that fits and then I will see about mounting the spring.
    Bill Capron, Sunny and 75 and no Amphi to drive.
     
  6. vaircrazy
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    --- In amphicar-lovers@y..., "wcapron2001" <wcarron@q...> wrote:
    > Question, What about shocks? Is Gordons the only source? Has
    anybody
    > tried to weld spring mounts onto existing standard type shocks?
    > Because I own a Texaco station I have a very good relationship with
    > my NAPA parts store. I am going to try and get their help in
    finding
    > a shock that fits and then I will see about mounting the spring.
    > Bill Capron, Sunny and 75 and no Amphi to drive.

    Bill,
    I have tried to find a suitable replacement for the shocks but have
    had no luck falling short of finding a replacement to weld the
    mounting eyelets on. The top is threaded on the bottom is welded.
    Good luck. The only suitable replacement would be thru Hugh but they
    are pricey.
    Mike Bayman
    Urbana, Ohio
     
  7. Allan Woodcock
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    I have a copy of the write-up Rick Fry has done on Amphi Shocks. Can't
    seem to find it on the Yahoo Archives though. W Capron (or anyone else)
    - if you want me to e-mail you a copy send me an e-mail at:
    awoodc@earthlink.net. It's a great article with step by step
    instructions on making shocks from off the shelf parts.
    Allan
    '66 red
     
  8. Gord Souter
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    Jeff from Toronto did some big research on Sunday
    and found a great set of shocks at a supplier for Snowmobiles.
    and for bushing he to a sample of shocks from me and went to a spring shop
    and got exact
    bushings and will weld them on.
    a bit of work but will be a good source .
    I will not sell this set up but will post when he id done and tested as
    what to get and where
    on the parts info section.
    Gord Souter,Canadian 4 amphs,
    3860 Carlyon line
    RR4 ORILLIA ONT.
    L3V 6H4

    MY new phone # is 1 705 327 2820

    I buy, sell and restore Only Amphicars
    over 700 different parts for sale.
    Interior kits and fibreglass panels my specialty!


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  9. a_colo_native
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    Gord,

    Snowmobile shocks? Unless those snowmobiles are about 2600lbs
    (60/40 weight), I would think they will be in-adequate for the
    Amphi.

    John
     
  10. WB6WSN
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    Re: Re: Shocks

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    Gord,

    Snowmobile shocks? Unless those snowmobiles are about 2600lbs
    (60/40 weight), I would think they will be in-adequate for the
    Amphi.

    John


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    <font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">Let's see what the details are on those new shocks. Remember, those Canucks are pretty serious about their snowmobiles!</font>
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    <font face="Times New Roman" color="#0000ff" size="4">Ed
    El Cajon, CA USA
    67 Rust Guppy
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  11. Gord Souter
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    2600 divvied by 4 is 650 lbs per wheel..
    slead..about900 lbs. driver... me 250 lbs=1150. shocks on suspension in
    track 1 or 2
    there gas charged real tough, and fully adjustable against our spring..
    sounds good. will let you know.
    GORD
    1 more week for interior kits at $890.00


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  12. tazman3115@aol.com
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    <font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Thank you Bo for taking the time to try to help all of us. If not to pricey or unreasonable I would be interested in 2 pairs of rears and a set of fronts for an early and a late car. Thank you Chuck in MI</font>
     
  13. Ken ''KD'' Roy
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    Any word on getting our original shocks rebuilt?
    The shocks on my 67 Amphi are pretty shot, so I either need replacements, or
    rebuilt ones.
    What's the best way to go?

    Till later.....
    Ken Roy
    kdroy@hotmail.com
     
  14. a_colo_native
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    Ken,

    A sample was sent off to the guy who said it may be do-able. I have no
    idea what his schedule is like so I don't know if he needs a week or a
    month. Once I get an answer I'll let all know what happened. I'm tired
    of driving with shot shocks and not willing to spend a grand to
    replace them.

    John
     
  15. Gord Souter
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    I picked up some shocks today for late style amphi. they were out of o4-258
    but had 08-168 , look same but $14.00 more.
    will keep you posted on how I modify it to work.
    and will get photos in my web
    go there now and click on notes and tips for part information.
    (www.amphicar.ca)

    G-Man.


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  16. Ken ''KD'' Roy
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    I just ordered some monroe 58253 front shocks for my 67 Amphi, but havent
    received them yet.
    I'll keep you posted on whether the work or not.
    I found some monroe 58620 shock for the rear, & got excited for a moment.
    They would have fit, except they were 17" long instead of 16".
    I was looking at my old one & it looks like the top bushing/sleeve might
    unscrew from the shock rod.
    If this is true, mayby one could cut an inch of the monroe, thead the rod, &
    screw the old part back on. Does anyone know if it unscrews??

    Till later.....
    Ken Roy
     
  17. amphijim
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    amphijim Guest

    With all this talk lately about shocks and what might or might not
    fit, function properly, etc., here is a novel concept:
    If you need shocks, buy them from Gordon Imports. Hugh has done a
    lot of research and has a product that meets or exceeds the
    specifications of the OEM units. The shocks he sells are very high
    quality, adjustable in both height and dampening, fit the car without
    any modifications, and they last. And just for the record, they look
    really cool!
    I have over 4,000 miles on my car since installing Gordon's shocks.
    Frankly, after using these, I wouldn't run anything else. Especially
    something I had to modify first to make fit!
    Sooo.... we can do all our own research, testing, etc., and come
    up with someting that might (or might not) be up to the task, or we
    can call the Gordons and get parts designed and engineered for the
    job. It doesn't seem that difficult a decision to me.
     
  18. a_colo_native
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    Hugh does not have the shocks that fit the early style cars without
    mods that need to be done, only late, thru hull type are available
    w/o mods.

    John

    --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "amphijim" <Amphijim@...>
    wrote:
    >
    > With all this talk lately about shocks and what might or might
    not
    > fit, function properly, etc., here is a novel concept:
    > If you need shocks, buy them from Gordon Imports. Hugh has done
    a
    > lot of research and has a product that meets or exceeds the
    > specifications of the OEM units. The shocks he sells are very
    high
    > quality, adjustable in both height and dampening, fit the car
    without
    > any modifications, and they last. And just for the record, they
    look
    > really cool!
    > I have over 4,000 miles on my car since installing Gordon's
    shocks.
    > Frankly, after using these, I wouldn't run anything else.
    Especially
    > something I had to modify first to make fit!
    > Sooo.... we can do all our own research, testing, etc., and
    come
    > up with someting that might (or might not) be up to the task, or
    we
    > can call the Gordons and get parts designed and engineered for the
    > job. It doesn't seem that difficult a decision to me.
    >
     
  19. amphijim
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    I beg to differ, John. I have an early car and Hugh's shocks bolted
    in right out of the box. No modifications necessary.
     
  20. a_colo_native
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    <font face="arial">Jim - I was going by Hugh's description on his website. Minor mods for sure, but mods [​IMG]Maybe he is doing them different now?[​IMG] . - John</font>


    <font face="arial"><font color="#0000ff">4-20-37a
    "Requires your original large 3 3/4"" rear spring, as supplied on 1965-1967 North American Amphicars. Nitrogen gas charged with six firmness settings. Will fit early 1960-1964 Amphicars provided you install large rear spring 4-20-37S."</font>

    --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "amphijim" <Amphijim@...> wrote:
    >
    > I beg to differ, John. I have an early car and Hugh's shocks bolted
    > in right out of the box. No modifications necessary.
    >
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