Rust proofing

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ECR Staff

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Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

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ECR Staff

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Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoastrover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

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Bill Connelly

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<font size="2">What a superb idea! On a smaller scale, I also wonder whether those panels and parts most prone to replacement due to rust, such as quarterpanels, battery trays and so forth,might not also benefit from such treatment.</font>
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<font size="2">Since you've clearly done it withLand Rovers,I wonder if you could go a little more intothe galvanic process itself, about the necessary materials and/or prices, companies thatmight provide the service and so forth.</font>
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<font size="2">~Bilgey~</font>

<font size="2">----- Original Message -----
From: ECR Staff
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Rust proofing


Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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Bill Connelly

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<table bgColor="#c8e0d8" background="">
<font size="2">What a superb idea! On a smaller scale, I also wonder whether those panels and parts most prone to replacement due to rust, such as quarterpanels, battery trays and so forth,might not also benefit from such treatment.</font>
<font size="2"></font>
<font size="2">Since you've clearly done it withLand Rovers,I wonder if you could go a little more intothe galvanic process itself, about the necessary materials and/or prices, companies thatmight provide the service and so forth.</font>
<font size="2"></font>
<font size="2">~Bilgey~</font>

<font size="2">----- Original Message -----
From: ECR Staff
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Rust proofing


Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoastrover.com

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Dennis Witthun

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How do you apply the galvanizing? Could you do a whole car? Dennis

ECR Staff <ecrover@midcoast.com> wrote: <blockquote class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <div id="ygrp-text"> Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoas<wbr>trover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

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Dennis Witthun

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How do you apply the galvanizing? Could you do a whole car? Dennis

ECR Staff <ecrover@midcoast.com> wrote: <blockquote class="replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <div id="ygrp-text"> Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoas<wbr>trover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

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glennyrosa@comcast.net

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This is such a no brainer. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?

g in O

<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
From: Dennis Witthun <d_m_wit2n@ameritech.net>

<div id="ygrp-text">



How do you apply the galvanizing? Could you do a whole car?
Dennis

ECR Staff <ecrover@midcoast.<wbr>com> wrote:
<blockquote class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
<div id="ygrp-text">
Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoas<wbr>trover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

If this email contains only this text signature it means the answer
to your inquiry is listed in our FAQ section
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</blockquote>



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glennyrosa@comcast.net

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This is such a no brainer. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?

g in O

<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
From: Dennis Witthun <d_m_wit2n@ameritech.net>

<div id="ygrp-text">



How do you apply the galvanizing? Could you do a whole car?
Dennis

ECR Staff <ecrover@midcoast.<wbr>com> wrote:
<blockquote class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
<div id="ygrp-text">
Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts?

--
ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoas<wbr>trover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

If this email contains only this text signature it means the answer
to your inquiry is listed in our FAQ section
http://www.eastcoas<wbr>trover.com/<wbr>FAQ.html
</blockquote>



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WB6WSN

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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of glennyrosa@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:01 PM
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Rust proofing<span class="656354305-16102006"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#ff0000" size="4"></font></span></font>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="656354305-16102006">
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">This is such a no brainer. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">g in O </blockquote>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" align="left">
<blockquote class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">------------<wbr>-- Original message ------------<wbr>--
From: Dennis Witthun <d_m_wit2n@ameritech<wbr>.net>




How do you apply the galvanizing? Could you do a whole car? </blockquote>
<div dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Dennis

ECR Staff <ecrover@midcoast.<wbr>com> wrote:
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<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts<font face="Century Schoolbook"><font size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">If you use an electroplating process to apply a layer of zinc, then you must have some special techniques to get the plating into the more shielded or remote parts of the hull.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">If you use a hot-dip process, that must be one heckuva big tank with molten zinc in it.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">Either way, I would like to hear how you do the process.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">BTW, later welding over zinc-plated steel is not nice; the zinc wants to contaminate the weld and the gasses given off are hazardous. OTOH, smaller panel sections could be repaired by soldered-in patches.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">Ed Price</font>
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">El Cajon, CA USA</font>
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">67 Rust Guppy</font>
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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of glennyrosa@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:01 PM
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Rust proofing<span class="656354305-16102006"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#ff0000" size="4"></font></span></font>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="656354305-16102006">
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">This is such a no brainer. Why hasn't anyone else thought of this?
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">g in O </blockquote>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" align="left">
<blockquote class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">------------<wbr>-- Original message ------------<wbr>--
From: Dennis Witthun <d_m_wit2n@ameritech<wbr>.net>




How do you apply the galvanizing? Could you do a whole car? </blockquote>
<div dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Dennis

ECR Staff <ecrover@midcoast.<wbr>com> wrote:
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<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Please excuse the crazy question, but I gotta ask it.

Has anyone tried galvanizing an Amphicar shell??

We do tons of this with the Land Rovers and it is so rust proof it
seems like a natural for the Amphi body.

Thoughts<font face="Century Schoolbook"><font size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">If you use an electroplating process to apply a layer of zinc, then you must have some special techniques to get the plating into the more shielded or remote parts of the hull.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">If you use a hot-dip process, that must be one heckuva big tank with molten zinc in it.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">Either way, I would like to hear how you do the process.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">BTW, later welding over zinc-plated steel is not nice; the zinc wants to contaminate the weld and the gasses given off are hazardous. OTOH, smaller panel sections could be repaired by soldered-in patches.</span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006"></span></font></font></font>
<div class="replbq" style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font><font color="#0000ff" size="4"><span class="656354305-16102006">
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">Ed Price</font>
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">El Cajon, CA USA</font>
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">67 Rust Guppy</font>
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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 10/16/2006 7:44:53 AM Central Daylight Time, ecrover@midcoast.com writes:



<blockquote TYPE="CITE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm 100% paranoid that something will happen to the body



Don't blame you there, I had wanted to get my bush hog deck done by a local plant that does oil field stuff, he said he could do it but would not guarantee that it would not warp, and that thing is 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick. I never heard about the quenching part so maybe that could be solved by air drying. Another thing the local fellow told me was the process is priced by weight not size. Other considerations would be runs and as Mike said excessive build up in areas where it would not drain out.



Seems there are two ways to do it, one by hot dip and the other by electroplating, kinda like chrome plating. With plating there would be a problem with all the areas that are, shall we say, hidden, the current would want to plate areas easy to get to, like the outside of fenders and leave the hidden areas with little or no build up. So for me this is something that's more touble than its worth, except for maybe the doors,hood and engine cover, if they don't get warped.



I had always wondered how the new truck beds were done and after reading this site </blockquote></font><font COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">

</font><font COLOR="#0000ff" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> Hot-dip galvanizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, seems that the sheetmetal is

coated before the bed is made. So what the world needs is a stainless steel Amphicar.



A couple of interesting things about this process, its named after this fellow from the past who was dissecting frogs--go figure-- Luigi Galvani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



One thing leads to another, and we meet this fellow-- Alessandro Volta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia </font><font COLOR="#0000ff" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">

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lah20car@aol.com

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 10/16/2006 7:44:53 AM Central Daylight Time, ecrover@midcoast.com writes:



<blockquote TYPE="CITE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm 100% paranoid that something will happen to the body



Don't blame you there, I had wanted to get my bush hog deck done by a local plant that does oil field stuff, he said he could do it but would not guarantee that it would not warp, and that thing is 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick. I never heard about the quenching part so maybe that could be solved by air drying. Another thing the local fellow told me was the process is priced by weight not size. Other considerations would be runs and as Mike said excessive build up in areas where it would not drain out.



Seems there are two ways to do it, one by hot dip and the other by electroplating, kinda like chrome plating. With plating there would be a problem with all the areas that are, shall we say, hidden, the current would want to plate areas easy to get to, like the outside of fenders and leave the hidden areas with little or no build up. So for me this is something that's more touble than its worth, except for maybe the doors,hood and engine cover, if they don't get warped.



I had always wondered how the new truck beds were done and after reading this site </blockquote></font><font COLOR="#000000" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">

</font><font COLOR="#0000ff" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> Hot-dip galvanizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, seems that the sheetmetal is

coated before the bed is made. So what the world needs is a stainless steel Amphicar.



A couple of interesting things about this process, its named after this fellow from the past who was dissecting frogs--go figure-- Luigi Galvani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



One thing leads to another, and we meet this fellow-- Alessandro Volta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia </font><font COLOR="#0000ff" BACK="#ffffff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">

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The galvanizing process we use for Rovers is a dip and the places
that do this have tanks big enough for an Amphi. so that is not a
problem (these are the guys who galvanize street lights poles and
guard-rails). Rover frames are thin box steel units that collected
crud inside and rusted out easily. Once the frame is fixed and
galvanized rust is no longer a factor.
Basically they dunk the part to remove the surface stuff then dunk it
in hot zinc so it is coated inside and out. Same stuff used on a boat
trailer and it just doesn't rust.
Warping the thin metal is a concern, but not so much if you can get
the galvanizer to air dry the parts instead of quencing them (that is
what causes the warp). They sell zinc primers and such in a can, but
that doesn't work very well (no more than any thing else). So it
isn't something you can do to an already complete Amphi (as you have
to dunk it).
Yes, welding to zinc is hazardous if you don't grind away the coating
before you weld, but if you do the steel work first, then galvanize
you won't have to be welding on the body in your lifetime (unless you
have to repair crash damage). There are old wives tails about paint
not sticking to galvanizing, but PPG now makes primers that will
stick without worry.
My worries are:
The added weight of the coating of zinc and warpage.
From the emails I assume that no one has done this before so I guess
I am the test pilot.
I am for sure galvanizing my doors and such to make all steel Amphi
part that will never rust out, but am still up in the air on the
body. I need to explore if the zinc will have too many places to pool
in the bildge, etc. and also I'm 100% paranoid that something will
happen to the body and I only have the one.
I tried to buy an Ebay Amphi body to use as a "test" but I lost out.
If anyone has a junk Amphi body that they want to sell me that is in
the east let me know.
Thanks,
Mike Smith


ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoastrover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/FAQ.html

We suggest all 1993-1995 NAS Defender owners read this page:
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ECR staff

Guest
The galvanizing process we use for Rovers is a dip and the places
that do this have tanks big enough for an Amphi. so that is not a
problem (these are the guys who galvanize street lights poles and
guard-rails). Rover frames are thin box steel units that collected
crud inside and rusted out easily. Once the frame is fixed and
galvanized rust is no longer a factor.
Basically they dunk the part to remove the surface stuff then dunk it
in hot zinc so it is coated inside and out. Same stuff used on a boat
trailer and it just doesn't rust.
Warping the thin metal is a concern, but not so much if you can get
the galvanizer to air dry the parts instead of quencing them (that is
what causes the warp). They sell zinc primers and such in a can, but
that doesn't work very well (no more than any thing else). So it
isn't something you can do to an already complete Amphi (as you have
to dunk it).
Yes, welding to zinc is hazardous if you don't grind away the coating
before you weld, but if you do the steel work first, then galvanize
you won't have to be welding on the body in your lifetime (unless you
have to repair crash damage). There are old wives tails about paint
not sticking to galvanizing, but PPG now makes primers that will
stick without worry.
My worries are:
The added weight of the coating of zinc and warpage.
From the emails I assume that no one has done this before so I guess
I am the test pilot.
I am for sure galvanizing my doors and such to make all steel Amphi
part that will never rust out, but am still up in the air on the
body. I need to explore if the zinc will have too many places to pool
in the bildge, etc. and also I'm 100% paranoid that something will
happen to the body and I only have the one.
I tried to buy an Ebay Amphi body to use as a "test" but I lost out.
If anyone has a junk Amphi body that they want to sell me that is in
the east let me know.
Thanks,
Mike Smith


ECR
21 Tolman Road, Warren, ME 04864
ph: 207-594-8086 fax: 207-594-8120

http://www.eastcoastrover.com

ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes or
estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.
Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used and
vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/FAQ.html

We suggest all 1993-1995 NAS Defender owners read this page:
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/110oillines.html

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 10/16/2006 11:28:19 AM Central Daylight Time, ecrover@midcoast.com writes:



<blockquote TYPE="CITE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I want to run in salt water periodically (don't freak out folks)</blockquote>



Same here and I have done it in bays that are brackish but then went to fresh water, when I got home rinsed everything, inside and out with something called Salt Away from West Marine and haven't seen anything unusual but not something I would do regularly as its too much trouble and a major worry.

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 10/16/2006 11:28:19 AM Central Daylight Time, ecrover@midcoast.com writes:



<blockquote TYPE="CITE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I want to run in salt water periodically (don't freak out folks)</blockquote>



Same here and I have done it in bays that are brackish but then went to fresh water, when I got home rinsed everything, inside and out with something called Salt Away from West Marine and haven't seen anything unusual but not something I would do regularly as its too much trouble and a major worry.

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http://www.eastcoastrover.com



ECR emails are for information exchange only, they are not quotes
or

estimates. All work at ECR is done on a time and materials basis.

Install costs and overall project costs can not be given as used
and

vintage vehicles vary greatly in condition.</font>

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