Pump & Door Seals

Discussion in 'General Amphicar Discussion' started by martyandcaryl@charter.net, Mar 27, 2001.

  1. I will look for the trans filling pump at my limited parts store and
    also at a marina. Rene, I understand your point with using the mag
    insert, I use that type plug on other vehicles and they have no
    problems.

    I need to apply a new door seal to the passenger side on the body, I
    have a roll from Gordon Imports #11-34-33, soft black material 5/8"
    wide x 1/8" thick, also 3M Super Weather-strip Adhesive.

    Are there any tricks to applying this material so we have no leaks.
    The adhesive says, coat both units and let dry before attaching. How
    fast is this adhesive or does the drying allow you to attach it and
    it stays put when attached. What about wrapping it around the
    corners.

    There were 2 pieces, doubled up on the car that I removed, I doubt
    this was normal.

    Thanks,
    Marty
     
  2. Bill Connelly
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    I will look for the trans filling pump at my limited parts store and
    also at a marina. Rene, I understand your point with using the mag
    insert, I use that type plug on other vehicles and they have no
    problems.

    > The unit I use for regular tranny oil changes is that a fairly
    ubiquitous orange and black hand pump found in most every auto supplies
    shop. It sound to me from an earlier posting that that may be the same unit
    you've used in addition to a "drill type" pump. All I can add is that while
    it's a little tricky to get started, requiring a lot of patience as you feel
    the heavier weight oil crawl ploop-plooping up the line and into the pump
    cylinder, once "primed" and flowing I've found it acts like a siphon. Sure,
    it doesn't get ALL of the oil out, but it does the trick for my regular
    end-of-season "pamperings". I usually run the Amphi around a bit first to
    whip and warm up the tranny oil a little before pumping it out, so I'm
    pretty sure I am getting at least most of the temporarily suspended water
    and other goobers out. If it's your first draining of the trannies, at the
    least hint of minor water fouling (i.e. if your tranny oil looks like
    anything other than bubbly honey), or if you're changing over to AMSOIL
    synthetic lubricants for the first time, then one should certainly consider
    the more difficult but thorough "full draining" described at
    http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/m1923.html and
    http://www.amphicar.net/library/trannydraining.jpg and
    http://www.amphicar.net/library/trannydrainingpix.jpg.


    I need to apply a new door seal to the passenger side on the body, I
    have a roll from Gordon Imports #11-34-33, soft black material 5/8"
    wide x 1/8" thick, also 3M Super Weather-strip Adhesive.

    Are there any tricks to applying this material so we have no leaks.
    The adhesive says, coat both units and let dry before attaching. How
    fast is this adhesive or does the drying allow you to attach it and
    it stays put when attached. What about wrapping it around the
    corners.

    > Basically the installation would go like this with Gordon's
    original type seals:

    1. Remove the old seals and adhesive, cleaning the door frame "channel"
    where the seal lies thoroughly (an old toothbrush dabbed sparingly in
    acetone will help remove stubborn old adhesive or sealant. Ummm...put out
    that cigarette, OK?)
    2. Apply adhesive sparingly to door frame channel.
    3. Begin laying in new seal, front to rear, applying adhesive as you work
    along.
    4. When you come to the 90 degree bends in the door frame, compress, don't
    s t r e t c h, the seal into place.
    5. Examine the placement of the seal, wiping away any extra adhesive.
    6. Close door and go away for 24 hours to allow it to set and settle in.
    7. Next day: trim off any overage with a razor and open the door. There!

    I sell SELF-adhesive door-at-body seals for $20 a pair. I had to get a
    whole lot of the stuff specially cut once upon a time when Gordon was
    temporarily out of them several years ago, as I was doing my own Amphi. My
    seals are cut a tad wider (9/16") and just a smidgeon thicker (3/16") than
    the original type seals on purpose: to help give "tired" by otherwise sound
    door-at-door seals a second lease on life. Being self-adhesive, mine are
    also a LOT easier to finagle into place. If you want strict originality, go
    with Gordon's seals, If you want a cheaper and easier solution for
    dribble-free boating, then see my ad at http://www.amphicar.com/ads.htm.
    They don't LOOK blatantly "unoriginal", and the ones in my Amphi have been
    hanging in there since '95 with nary a dribble.

    There were 2 pieces, doubled up on the car that I removed, I doubt
    this was normal.

    > Quite right. It sounds like the previous owner was trying to
    beef up the thickness, for the reason described above, by adding a second
    seal on top of the first.

    ~Bilgemaster~
     
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