Poorly Rebuilt Wheel Cylinders

[Michael Echemann]

Spent all morning working on brakes only to find when I intalled the rear
cylinders the old but good bolts would not fit. Then spent a few hours
driving around finding the exact fit, thread and strength of proper bolts to
use. Once home I intalled them and found the metal brake fluid hoses which
go to the rear cylinders also will not fit. Then I took out a new metal
line to make sure I want having a nightmare only to find out yep, The dogs
who rebuilt the cylinders taped every tread larger on the entire cylinders.

I will be demanding a refund once I find my receipt.

Ken Roy, can you forward me the name and number of the place in case I can't
find my recieipt. The cylinders look good other than this. Oh why oh why
would they do such a thing.......I've heard of no other complaints about
this.

 

[Mark Richardson]

Mike,

I did something to my master cylinder that sounds like your problem.
I cleaned it in muratic acid, leaving it in too long and the brake
lines would almost get tight and let go. The acid had eaten away at
the threads and opened them up so the lines would not ever work
again, they would not get tight enough to not leak. I tried to get a
shop to helicoil them and being a brake part, no-one would touch it.
Hugh was kind enough to sell me a uded cylinder, and I started again-
this time no acid cleaning.
Might be a good idea to ask them to describe the procedure they use
to clean and prep the cylinders before re-building them. Maybe they
will tell you something that will explain the larger threaded holes.
Does not make sense that they would bother to tap all of the holes,
my money is on the cleaning process-nasssty acid.

I hate to admit I did that, bit I hope it gives you some ideas.

Later Mike,
Mark Richardson (PS nice Job Amphipoda on the letter!)


--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Echemann"
<echemike@s...> wrote:
> Spent all morning working on brakes only to find when I intalled
the rear
> cylinders the old but good bolts would not fit. Then spent a few
hours
> driving around finding the exact fit, thread and strength of
proper bolts to
> use. Once home I intalled them and found the metal brake fluid
hoses which
> go to the rear cylinders also will not fit. Then I took out a new
metal
> line to make sure I want having a nightmare only to find out
yep, The dogs
> who rebuilt the cylinders taped every tread larger on the entire
cylinders.
>
> I will be demanding a refund once I find my receipt.
>
> Ken Roy, can you forward me the name and number of the place in
case I can't
> find my recieipt. The cylinders look good other than this. Oh why
oh why
> would they do such a thing.......I've heard of no other complaints
about
> this.

 

[Mike Israel]

Mike. Shop info follows. Hope I do not run into same problem.

> Brake & Equipment
> 445 NE Harrison St
> Minneapolis, MN 55413
> 612-378-3141
>

Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.

 

[Michael Echemann]

Tanks Mark and Mike:
I sold a car and promised the new owner I'd go through the brakes with new
lines etc. I thought I'd use these new cylinders then found the metal brake
line in the back would not tighten down. Like Mark said it just kept coming
loose at the end. The bolt holds were enlarged too. The cylinders were
decent used too when I sent them up.

The front one seem a bit better but still the metal lines connecting the two
and the top one with the rubber hose seem a bit less tight then they should
be. I could probably use them but with brakes I won't take the chance. Had
to tap into my reserves set of new ones I've been saving. Oh well, better
that than taking a chance.

I'll be wanting my money back for sure so wish me luck.

The process is sand blast them clean, sleeve and rebuild. I don't think
they were acid dipped. I was impressed with the shop as they called me
wanting a new piston because they found one they didn' t trust. I'm hoping
mine just fell into the hands of a worker who didn't care and everyone elses
are ok.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Poorly Rebuilt Wheel Cylinders


>
> Mike. Shop info follows. Hope I do not run into same problem.
>
>> Brake & Equipment
>> 445 NE Harrison St
>> Minneapolis, MN 55413
>> 612-378-3141
>>
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> Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.
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[bubba96339@aol.com]

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Any leads on rear break cylinders, (I knowGordon has them) but I did not know if there was an replacement cylinders that would work. I found the pistons and seals from a raybestus cylinder, but the cylinder was to big to use.

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[Mike Israel]

I did a quick check on my rebuilt cylinders this morning. Good news is that
threads all seem fine and snug.

I have been told by several sources that a helicoil is actually stronger than
standard cut threads.
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[Kazoo Books]

Regarding the Cylinders. Jim and I had ours done at White Post in Virginia,
I think. They were wonderful. 2 day turnaround. I highly recommend them.
Gloria

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Thank You
Kazoo Books
407 N Clarendon
Kalamazoo, MI 49006
800-516-2665
269-385-2665
www.Kazoobooks.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Echemann [mailto:echemike@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:16 PM
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Poorly Rebuilt Wheel Cylinders


Tanks Mark and Mike:
I sold a car and promised the new owner I'd go through the brakes with new
lines etc. I thought I'd use these new cylinders then found the metal brake

line in the back would not tighten down. Like Mark said it just kept coming

loose at the end. The bolt holds were enlarged too. The cylinders were
decent used too when I sent them up.

The front one seem a bit better but still the metal lines connecting the two

and the top one with the rubber hose seem a bit less tight then they should
be. I could probably use them but with brakes I won't take the chance. Had

to tap into my reserves set of new ones I've been saving. Oh well, better
that than taking a chance.

I'll be wanting my money back for sure so wish me luck.

The process is sand blast them clean, sleeve and rebuild. I don't think
they were acid dipped. I was impressed with the shop as they called me
wanting a new piston because they found one they didn' t trust. I'm hoping
mine just fell into the hands of a worker who didn't care and everyone elses

are ok.

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Israel" <amphicar770@yahoo.com>
To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Poorly Rebuilt Wheel Cylinders


>
> Mike. Shop info follows. Hope I do not run into same problem.
>
>> Brake & Equipment
>> 445 NE Harrison St
>> Minneapolis, MN 55413
>> 612-378-3141
>>
>
> Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile.
>
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