Paint

Woodsie

Member
Looking for some ideas of Paint for the Bottom of my Amphicar (black)
Single stage seems like the way i guess .
acrylic enamil - urithane or ? lost in the Sea of paint-

Also whats the best product for the rest of the car
single stage on the inside - basecoat -clear on the outside right!
- Dave
 

Woodsie

Member
Maybe to many questions - Well what im really looking for is the paint brand with the best results on a Amphicar.
I have heard one or more people not so happy with Dupont paint.....

thanks Dave
 

goobcarla

Member
Please be more specific about problems with DuPont or, for that matter, any other brand of paint. I've been restoring cars professionally for almost 40 years, using several brands of paint with problems I can count on one hand! DuPont has been my #1 choice for the last 8 years simply because it works so well! Anyone can paint a car, but not everyone knows how to paint a car!

Just my 2 cents!
Gary P. Grieshaber (red '64)
---- Woodsie <> wrote:
 

dougklink

Member
I've use both Dupont and PPG with great results. I mostly shoot PPG just because the jobber I get the paint from is better and cheaper than the DuPont jobber. The urethanes are so durable if you prep right they'll look great many years from now, unlike the older paints we used to use.
----- Original Message -----
From: goobcarla
To: dougklink@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20143] Re: Paint


Please be more specific about problems with DuPont or, for that matter, any other brand of paint. I've been restoring cars professionally for almost 40 years, using several brands of paint with problems I can count on one hand! DuPont has been my #1 choice for the last 8 years simply because it works so well! Anyone can paint a car, but not everyone knows how to paint a car!

Just my 2 cents!
Gary P. Grieshaber (red '64)
---- Woodsie <> wrote:
 

dougklink

Member
I've use both Dupont and PPG with great results. I mostly shoot PPG just because the jobber I get the paint from is better and cheaper than the DuPont jobber. The urethanes are so durable if you prep right they'll look great many years from now, unlike the older paints we used to use.
----- Original Message -----
From: goobcarla
To: dougklink@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20143] Re: Paint


Please be more specific about problems with DuPont or, for that matter, any other brand of paint. I've been restoring cars professionally for almost 40 years, using several brands of paint with problems I can count on one hand! DuPont has been my #1 choice for the last 8 years simply because it works so well! Anyone can paint a car, but not everyone knows how to paint a car!

Just my 2 cents!
Gary P. Grieshaber (red '64)
---- Woodsie <> wrote:
 
Woodsie, I am using a self etching Black Epoxy urethane on the bottom of my Hull. They claim it can be used as a finish coat doesnt and require top coating as long it is not exposed to direct sunlight. I have also primed my entire car with it (gray) after sandblasting. Dave the wave gave me their name Southern Polyurethanes 1-800-476-3006 , Good Luck! Jack
 
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Ron Green

Guest
I painted my underside 5 years ago with POR-15 and it is like the day it was painted. Zero issues, will not chip, no peeling and is the correct shade of black. I took it down to bare metal, cleaned throughly, used etching solution and gave it 2 coats. I even used it on the stub axles, shock springs, tir rods, etc.
 

chasgould

New Member
In a message dated 9/4/08 9:35:23 AM, writes:



> I painted my underside 5 years ago with POR-15 and it is like the day it
> was painted. Zero issues, will not chip, no peeling and is the correct shade of
> black. I took it down to bare metal, cleaned throughly, used etching
> solution and gave it 2 coats.
>

I am sure that your wife apreciates that! Did all that sanding and buffing
cause you any pain?
The women in my life prefer my underside to remain "au natural".
Chas


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Ron Green

Guest
In a message dated 9/4/08 9:35:23 AM, writes:





I am sure that your wife apreciates that! Did all that sanding and buffing
cause you any pain?
The women in my life prefer my underside to remain "au natural".
Chas
**************
It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your
travel deal here.
(Travel Deals Hot 5 for Discount Travel

The etching was the worst part since it is part acid. Recommend applying after a few cocktails. If you change wives you can change colors is my theory. :003:
 

PeterP

Member
I painted my underside 5 years ago with POR-15 and it is like the day it was painted. Zero issues, will not chip, no peeling and is the correct shade of black. I took it down to bare metal, cleaned throughly, used etching solution and gave it 2 coats. I even used it on the stub axles, shock springs, tir rods, etc.

Is the POR-15 sprayed or brushed?
 
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Ron Green

Guest
I used a 3" or 4" foam roller and you can not tell as it absolutely looks sprayed on. Even my friend who restores high end antique vehicles in a 40 year business was impressed. I elected to go this route so my shop wouldn't get all hogged up from the over spray.

FYI, POR-15 cures through moisture and not temperature. To obtain the same shade of black throughout you need to use the same application means be it a roller / brush / etc, apply the same amount of product to the applicator, do the underside all at once.

FYI, I believe that John Capone (AKA Cigarman) has found another product (made by 3M?) that he used last week on his amphi that he is happy with.
 

scottamphi

New Member
**** I used POR-15 on my hull 3 years ago now. Black on the*outside, grey on the inside lower portion of the car which was top coated with PPG paint. I used my HVHP gun, they had no thinning instructions to spray. I forget the ratio but it was 8 or 10 parts POR-15 to 1(POR-15 reducer only!). Clean the gun thurally when POR-15 hardens it stays!
**** Very happy with it so far.
**************************************************** Scott W. North Carolina

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Ron Green <> wrote:

From: Ron Green <>
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20143] Re: Paint
To: scottamphi@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 7:21 AM







I used a 3" or 4" foam roller and you can not tell as it absolutely looks sprayed on. Even my friend who restores high end antique vehicles in a 40 year business was impressed. I elected to go this route so my shop wouldn't get all hogged up from the over spray.

FYI, POR-15 cures through moisture and not temperature. To obtain the same shade of black throughout you need to use the same application means be it a roller / brush / etc, apply the same amount of product to the applicator, do the underside all at once.

FYI, I believe that John Capone (AKA Cigarman) has found another product (made by 3M?) that he used last week on his amphi that he is happy with.
 

Ed Price

Member
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From: Ron Green [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:32 AM
To: edprice@cox.net
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20143] Re: Paint


I painted my underside 5 years ago with POR-15 and it is like the day it was
painted. Zero issues, will not chip, no peeling and is the correct shade of
black. I took it down to bare metal, cleaned throughly, used etching
solution and gave it 2 coats. I even used it on the stub axles, shock
springs, tir rods, etc.




I really like the POR-15 too. Odd, but the black seems to flow and cover
better than the grey. The POR-15 looks good on castings and the hull. My
biggest gripe about POR-15 is how it seems to get on YOU so well, and if you
don't get it off in a few minutes, you get skin stains that last a week or
so.

Ed Price
El Cajon, CA USA
61 Rust Guppy
 

Ed Price

Member
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From: PeterP [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:31 PM
To: edprice@cox.net
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20143] Re: Paint


Quote:

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I painted my underside 5 years ago with POR-15 and it is like the day it was
painted. Zero issues, will not chip, no peeling and is the correct shade of
black. I took it down to bare metal, cleaned throughly, used etching
solution and gave it 2 coats. I even used it on the stub axles, shock
springs, tir rods, etc.
Is the POR-15 sprayed or brushed?




You can do it either way, but spraying involves control of overspray and
maybe more cleanup. Definitely need a very good respirator mask; POR-15
cures on contact with moisture, so you don't want a cloud of that in your
lungs!

Brush painting can go two ways. If you use a relatively dry (not too loaded
with paint) brush, then you can get a thin layer which almost looks like a
chem film. If you really lay on the POR-15, it tends to yield a more
reflective surface. You see some hotrodders who have painted their
differential and rear axle case with a heavy coat, and it almost looks like
is sparkles.

Ed Price
El Cajon, CA USA
61 Rust Guppy
 

CapnJohn

Amphi Guru & Former IAOC President
Please be more specific about problems with DuPont or, for that matter, any other brand of paint. I've been restoring cars professionally for almost 40 years, using several brands of paint with problems I can count on one hand! DuPont has been my #1 choice for the last 8 years simply because it works so well! Anyone can paint a car, but not everyone knows how to paint a car!

That's the truth for sure! I just picked up a hull that I disassembled 4 years ago. My customer insisted that he use his nephew's bodyman because he was fast and "The best in the state". It took him 4+ years and when he was done, I picked up the car, took it to the shop and had him (customer) look it over. It never came off the trailer as it went to the soda blaster the next day. Even the guys at Maaco would have been ashamed. It's all bare metal now and the real work begins to remove all patches and substandard welding. My customer was shocked at how poorly done it was. Bondo came off in sheets as well as the paint. I peeled off a paint sheet the size of a notebook. Two tone, red on one side, greasy rust on the other! Not fit for a lawn tractor.
 
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