oil pressure

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tommyintpa@aol.com

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Hi all,
So this is the deal, we were at the boat show weekend before last. We were
the only car in the boat show. On the way back to the hotel the oil light came
on and stayed on.
So the question is if I remove the oil pressure sending unit and screw in an
oil pressure gage what should be at an idle? And what would the pressure be at
about 1500 rpm.
I understand the pressure will be dependent on the condition of the motor but
please give me some approximate numbers.
Thanks a lot, Tommy in Tampa


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Bill Connelly

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Hi all,
So this is the deal, we were at the boat show weekend before last. We were
the only car in the boat show. On the way back to the hotel the oil light
came
on and stayed on.
So the question is if I remove the oil pressure sending unit and screw in an
oil pressure gage what should be at an idle? And what would the pressure be
at
about 1500 rpm.
I understand the pressure will be dependent on the condition of the motor
but
please give me some approximate numbers.
Thanks a lot, Tommy in Tampa

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Tommy,

Except for the oil pressure switch's indicator light cutoff threshold at 5
to 7 lbs. and the oil pressure relief valve specs, there appears to be no
mention of acceptable OPERATIONAL oil pressure ranges in the Amphicar
_Maintenance Manual_, so below is a brief sampling gleaned from various
Triumph sites concerning oil pressure in engines that are similar or at
least very close relatives to the Amphicar's 1147 cc standard unit.

From what one reads "out there," it looks like about 40-60 pounds of
pressure with a thoroughly warmed engine at 2000 rpm would be a safe value
for any Amphicar, whether fitted with the stock 1147 cc engine, or if this
has been replaced with some other larger unit such as a 1300 (1296 cc) or
1500 (1493 cc) Spitfire engine. Since different Amphis' idle speeds can
vary greatly, this is certainly a less reliable benchmark. If your Amphi
engine's getting a little tired, and you're measuring closer to 40 than to
60 pounds at 2000 revs, then you might squeeze another couple-few seasons
before a rebuild is necessary by stepping up from the 10W30 recommended
weight motor oil to a 20W50. This will likely bring up the pressure a
couple-few pounds. Needless to say, I would recommend AMSOIL's Synthetic
20W-50 High Performance Motor Oil (API Service SG, SH, SJ, CF, CF-2, CG-4,
CH-4, CI-4 JASO MA) AMSOIL Product Code: "ARO" for this application. (AMSOIL
purchases also help pay the rent on the Amphicar.net website. See
http://www.amphicar.net/amsoil/ for more details).

Anyhow, below's the poot from various Triumph sites

~Bilgey~


EXCERPT FROM "General Dimensions, Weights and Capacities of the Triumph
Spitfire" at <http://www.triumphspitfire.com/Size.html>:

Oil warning light -- Extinguishes at 3 to 5 lb/in2 (0.21 to 0.35 kg/cm2)
oil pressure

[NOTE: According p. 1/45 of the Amphicar _Maintenance Manual_, the oil
warning light should go out at 5 to 7 lbs.]

EXCERPT FROM "TR6 Oil Pressures" at
<http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-pressure-TR6.html>:

I thought I would relate my experiences with TR6 Oil Presure, based on my
engine before and after my engine rebuild of a few years ago:
A fresh TR6 engine Oil pressure values:

Cold Idle 90+
Cold Running 100
Warm Idle 40
Warm Running 70

A worn TR6 engine might look like this, based on my engine before rebuild:

Cold Idle 50
Cold Running 70
Warm Idle 15
Warm Running 50

EXCERPT FROM "Jeff's Classic '67 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 Site" at
<http://www.totallytriumph.net/spitfire/auxillary_gauges.shtml>:

[...] A Spitfire engine should produce between 40-60 PSI when the engine is
fully warm and pushing about 2,000 RPM.

Excerpt from "Triumph Spitfire Mk IV" at
<http://www.laffey.co.uk/triumph/triumphspitfire.php>:

[...] Oil pressure ... ... 40 to 60lb./in.sq at 2,000 r.p.m.
 
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Larry & Nancy Solheim

Guest
Hi Tommy-

Take a look in the oil filler cap and see if oil is
bouncing around the valve guides. Dollars to
doughnuts says the sending unit is bad and the oil
pump is OK.

After that unsolicited advice, sorry I can't help you
with exact presures. I would expect 80-90 psi at rmp,
though.

Good luck,
--LarryS

--- tommyintpa@aol.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> So this is the deal, we were at the boat show
> weekend before last. We were
> the only car in the boat show. On the way back to
> the hotel the oil light came
> on and stayed on.
> So the question is if I remove the oil pressure
> sending unit and screw in an
> oil pressure gage what should be at an idle? And
> what would the pressure be at
> about 1500 rpm.
> I understand the pressure will be dependent on the
> condition of the motor but
> please give me some approximate numbers.
> Thanks a lot, Tommy in Tampa
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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tommyintpa@aol.com

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Re: Re: oil pressure

In a message dated 12/3/03 8:39:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
amphi662001@yahoo.com writes:


> Tommy: did you every get a chance to do an oil
> pressure test? If so, what did you discover?
>
> --LRS
>

Larry,
I did what you suggested. I looked into the oil fill cap. There was no oil
being pumped through the rocker at all. So I figure there is no oil pressure.
Funny the oil pump, if that is what it turns out to be just stopped pumping oil
while I was going down the road at about 30 MPH. If I had a gauge I probably
would not have noticed so the idiot light worked for this idiot. It saved the
motor.
Thanks for thinking of me, Tommy in Tampa


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Larry & Nancy Solheim

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Re: Re: oil pressure

Tommy: did you every get a chance to do a oil
pressure test? If so, what did you discover?

--LRS


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