Oil filters

Discussion in 'General Amphicar Discussion' started by Michael Echemann, Apr 27, 2001.

  1. Michael Echemann
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    Ken:
    Fram PH-16 is the perfect application. "pay now or pay later" as they say.
    Mike


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ken Chambers <kenneth3@concentric.net>
    To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:07 AM
    Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Oil filters


    > I've been wondering about oil filters for the Amphicar. The filters
    supplied by Hugh are no doubt the correct and possibly the best ones to use.
    They are Unipart GFE 121. I've been unsuccessful in identifying a cross
    reference to other common brand automotive filters. Based on the following
    posting from the Sacramento Valley MG Car Club, <<www.svmgcc.org>>, has
    anyone noticed the rod knock symptoms as described
    > below while using another (cheap) filter? I think our Herald and the MG
    engines are fairly similar in design, or at least in the oil filter mounting
    orientation.
    >
    > SVMGCC posting: "I would like to cover Rod Bearing Knock, when you first
    start up your MG from cold. This is more noticeable on the later MGB and
    Midget 1500cc engines, because on the MGB the oil filter is mounted upside
    down and on the Midget it is mounted at a slight angle.
    >
    > The problem when using a non-Unipart or Crosland brand oil filter is that
    the oil in the oil filter will slowly drain back into the engine over time.
    So when you start your cold engine, the oil has to come back into your oil
    filter before you can build up any oil pressure, thus you will have rod
    bearing knock for a few seconds.
    >
    > Unipart and Crosland brand oil filters have oil check valves built inside
    the filters to stop the oil from draining out, thus minimizing loss of oil
    pressure. Never ever use non-factory oil filters for your MG. Some
    American made filters have anti-drainback valves, but they vary widely in
    quality. The Unipart brand has a pretty good valve."
    >
    > So again, has anyone noticed any rod knock upon start up using American
    filters? What filters are you using?
    >
    > Ken Chambers, CA
    > '64 Amphi
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  2. Ken Chambers
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    Ken Chambers Guest

    I've been wondering about oil filters for the Amphicar. The filters supplied by
    Hugh are no doubt the correct and possibly the best ones to use. They are
    Unipart GFE 121. I've been unsuccessful in identifying a cross reference to
    other common brand automotive filters. Based on the following posting from the
    Sacramento Valley MG Car Club, <<www.svmgcc.org>>, has anyone noticed the rod
    knock symptoms as described
    below while using another (cheap) filter? I think our Herald and the MG engines
    are fairly similar in design, or at least in the oil filter mounting
    orientation.

    SVMGCC posting: "I would like to cover Rod Bearing Knock, when you first start
    up your MG from cold. This is more noticeable on the later MGB and Midget
    1500cc engines, because on the MGB the oil filter is mounted upside down and on
    the Midget it is mounted at a slight angle.

    The problem when using a non-Unipart or Crosland brand oil filter is that the
    oil in the oil filter will slowly drain back into the engine over time. So when
    you start your cold engine, the oil has to come back into your oil filter before
    you can build up any oil pressure, thus you will have rod bearing knock for a
    few seconds.

    Unipart and Crosland brand oil filters have oil check valves built inside the
    filters to stop the oil from draining out, thus minimizing loss of oil pressure.
    Never ever use non-factory oil filters for your MG. Some American made filters
    have anti-drainback valves, but they vary widely in quality. The Unipart brand
    has a pretty good valve."

    So again, has anyone noticed any rod knock upon start up using American filters?
    What filters are you using?

    Ken Chambers, CA
    '64 Amphi
     
  3. Mike Echemann
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    You can use Bosch "Super" plug #7597
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Chapman" <davidc@avonlogic.freeserve.co.uk>
    To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Oil Filters


    > Take care with plugs - the Amphi uses the Triumph 1147cc engine which
    needs
    > short reach plugs, most 1300/1500 Triumphs use long reach plugs - which
    fit
    > but equals holes in tops of pistons !
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  4. Mike Israel
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    Mike Israel Guest

    I just use a Fram ToughGuard PH16. The Toughguard
    line has the silicone check valve, thse standard
    Orange Frams do not. They should be available at
    WalMart. Off hand, I am not sure of what spark
    plugs.


    --- wick68355@aol.com wrote:
    > What is the number of the Fram oil filter with the
    > check valve? Also what
    > spark plugs do you use?
    > Tim Wick
    > white 63
    > Wisconsin
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  5. David Chapman
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    Take care with plugs - the Amphi uses the Triumph 1147cc engine which needs
    short reach plugs, most 1300/1500 Triumphs use long reach plugs - which fit
    but equals holes in tops of pistons !

    David Chapman
     
  6. Greg
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    Greg Guest

    I use the Fram Toughguard also but the number is
    actually TG16. The PH16 is for the standard Fram
    without the check valve. If you just remember 16 and
    toughguard, you'll have the right one.
    Greg Z.

    --- Mike Israel <amphicar770@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I just use a Fram ToughGuard PH16. The Toughguard
    > line has the silicone check valve, thse standard
    > Orange Frams do not. They should be available at
    > WalMart. Off hand, I am not sure of what spark
    > plugs.
    >
    >
    > --- wick68355@aol.com wrote:
    > > What is the number of the Fram oil filter with the
    > > check valve? Also what
    > > spark plugs do you use?
    > > Tim Wick
    > > white 63
    > > Wisconsin
    > >
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  7. Mike Israel
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    Mike Israel Guest

    I stand corrected. :)
    --- Greg <G_Zink_us@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > I use the Fram Toughguard also but the number is
    > actually TG16. The PH16 is for the standard Fram
    > without the check valve. If you just remember 16 and
    > toughguard, you'll have the right one.
    > Greg Z.
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