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wildbill

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Mike

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To all fellow ducks: I reside in Hamilton, Ontario Canada. Two years
ago I purchased a 1962 Amphicar from a deceased estate in Quebec, where
it was used on a private lake. I was promised the ownership/title but
have never received one, the deceased family cannot find any papers for

the Amphicar. I contacted the Quebec MOT/DOT, they have no record of
this car ever being registered and are unable to help me. My delemna is

trying to acquire an ownership in my name, our local MOT/DOT in Ontario
shows an Amphicar as an "off road" vehicle, I have sent them photo's and

plate numbers of other Amphicar's but according to their computers,
effective this year the word "Amphicar" only applies for off road use.
Apparently if the car is already registered your okay and the
grandfather law applies. I cannot apply for a lost ownership because
there is no record of this car being registered. I seem to have only
two recourses, #1 to apply for a homebuilt or hot rod ownership. This
will get me on the road but will greatly devalue the vehicle, #2 is to
find a used ownership and I.D. plate. This is okay but my vehicle only
has 5,000 original miles and if I ever go to sell it, the new ownership
may show a higher mileage and I will lose that way.

Any suggestions, or is there any fellow members with a low mileage
ownership and a I. D. plate for sale?

Mike Smith
 
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Bill Connelly

Guest
Mike:

Buy or beg a title off a hulk, rivet in a new VIN plaque from Gordon or the
hulk's original if available and to hell with the mileage. Nobody really
pays the mileage any mind on an Amphicar anyhow. Really.

~Bilgemaster~

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From: "Mike" <m5076@interlynx.net>
To: <amphicar-lovers@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:47 PM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] (no subject)


> To all fellow ducks: I reside in Hamilton, Ontario Canada. Two years
> ago I purchased a 1962 Amphicar from a deceased estate in Quebec, where
> it was used on a private lake. I was promised the ownership/title but
> have never received one, the deceased family cannot find any papers for
>
> the Amphicar. I contacted the Quebec MOT/DOT, they have no record of
> this car ever being registered and are unable to help me. My delemna is
>
> trying to acquire an ownership in my name, our local MOT/DOT in Ontario
> shows an Amphicar as an "off road" vehicle, I have sent them photo's and
>
> plate numbers of other Amphicar's but according to their computers,
> effective this year the word "Amphicar" only applies for off road use.
> Apparently if the car is already registered your okay and the
> grandfather law applies. I cannot apply for a lost ownership because
> there is no record of this car being registered. I seem to have only
> two recourses, #1 to apply for a homebuilt or hot rod ownership. This
> will get me on the road but will greatly devalue the vehicle, #2 is to
> find a used ownership and I.D. plate. This is okay but my vehicle only
> has 5,000 original miles and if I ever go to sell it, the new ownership
> may show a higher mileage and I will lose that way.
>
> Any suggestions, or is there any fellow members with a low mileage
> ownership and a I. D. plate for sale?
>
> Mike Smith
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> amphicar-lovers-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
Yes Amphipoda, the Amphicars will be back in Celina July 27-29, 2001. There
is also looking like there will be alot of other regional events popping up
next year....keep your eyes on the club newsletter and web page over the
next several months.

My stamp from Gordon's was of a quite unattractive Fanfin Anglerfish. Maybe
he just took a bad picture, but he sure is ugly!

Marc Schlemmer.
 
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sullnbob@aol.com

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richard martin

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martyandcaryl@charter.net

Guest
Dear Mrs. Hall

The option to restore or sell your Amphicar:

Dave Derer brings up a very good point about Amphicars owners having
very strong emotional connections with their Amphicar. Yours may or
may not be as strong as your husbands or even my wife and mine.

We enjoy driving and swimming our Amphicar so much, and at this time
it is a very big part of our lives, the kids too.

Should you choose to have it restored, please do drive and swim it.

If you decide to sell your Amphi, and if you choose to do so with any
of our club members, be assured, they are all very trustworthy and
would not try to take advantage of you.

Of any club or professional affiliation we have been associated with,
driving and swimming our Amphicar gives us more satisfaction and fun,
we also meet the nicest friends.

Best Regards
Marty & Caryl Peters
'64 Turq
BUOYANT in WI
 
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Amphipoda@yahoo.com

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The Amphipoda Manifesto (Part 1)

The thing we call "Amphi" is not like anything that society is
used to thinking about. Amphi is something like a machine,
and something like physics, and something like an animal,
and something like thought, and art, and a religion. But Amphi
is not exactly any of those things. Amphi is, however, most like
a lifestyle with inherent ambiguities, with different definitions,
different assumptions, and different levels of meaning that some-
times conflict. In all honestly, Amphi doesn't translate well in
terms of societal norms and is often misrepresented in literature.
For decades scholars have struggled with the concepts of Amphi
and how these concepts have manifested themselves into the
lives of those who have intertwined the "Amphi way" into an
essential part of their very being. Here I will attempt to clarify
where my predecessors have failed.

Take away from human culture all art, all science, all creativity,
and all reason, we are left with but mere instinct. Instinctively,
and by the very nature of the human species, we revert to the
basic essentials of existence. At a minimum shelter, food, and
water are needed to sustain life. However these primitive life-
sustaining items are beyond our grasp without one key ingredient -
mobility. Arguably the most important part of human adaptability
is mobility. It is with mobility that the essentials of life are
obtained, nurtured, and passed on to future generations. The greater
the mobility - the greater the access to life. Amphi is the
quintessential pillar of mobility. Such mobility is to be cherished.

From a purely philosophical standpoint Amphi is both religion and
science in its purest form. A product of creation and evolution that
embodies ancient traditions and technological breakthroughs from
humankind's greatest eras. Amphi represents the fulfillment of
human destiny in a capacity unsurpassed by tangible inventions
and can only adequately be compared to ideals and perfect concepts.
Through the test of time Amphi has remained somewhat of an enigma,
but Amphi is also kept timeless with the devoted following of loyal
supporters. These followers of the Amphi way are in themselves
extensions of Amphi and though their embodiment, in heart and mind,
the Amphi will continue to flourish.

Amphipoda
'64 Turquoise
San Diego, CA
 
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Mike Dixon

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this is to Mike , I think, are you the one who has a
car for sale? Can you tell me more about it, like
condition and how much?

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Ed

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I picked my radio up at Radio Shack, + ground. Realistic. Engine static and noise made it impossible to hear under power. Electronic filters would help.





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64 turq.


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Carla Brieshaber

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Reply-to: goob
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: File photos of Celina 2001


I'm trying to find the file photos of Celina. Can someone point me in the
right direction?
thanks,
Goob (in dry dock)



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Marty,

All the pics look great! Now I REALLY wish I could have been there.
Hopefully by next year I will have my car completed. I haven't had
much time to dedicate to it for the last month. Twelve to 16
hour 'daze' here at work make John a dull (and grouchy) boy. While
all you folks were out swimming last Sat. I was at work trying to
make some extra $$ to turn into Amphi parts.

I do always feel better after spending a decent amount of time seeing
progress happen. There are evenings I will get home and not even make
it into the house until 10 or 11PM. Then I have to get up @4AM for
work.

John



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--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., Carla Brieshaber <goob@s...> wrote:
> Reply-to: goob
> Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: File photos of Celina 2001
>
>
> I'm trying to find the file photos of Celina. Can someone point
me in the right direction?
> thanks,
> Goob (in dry dock)

Goob,

Look over on the Left side of your screen <--- and in the box there
you will see the link for the files section. or use this ...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amphicar-lovers/files

Some good stuff in there!

John
 
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Carla Brieshaber

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Reply-to: goob
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Polarizing a new generator


I don't think you want to polarize your generator, your voltage regulator would
be a better candidate for this. Look in the local Yellow Pages and save a lot of
money, pay a professional! That's what I do, and I've been around Amphicars
since 1965.



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Anybody out there know how to polarize a new generator. I have one installed
& blue light is on & gas gauge will not work. I know it is easy, but do not
want to blow up the new unit. Thanks, Mark
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To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 5:52 AM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Digest Number 380


> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There are 6 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. RE: [water leaks)
> From: "Gord Souter" <houseboats@encode.com>
> 2. checking for leaks
> From: Arnold Hite <ahite@Charleston.Net>
> 3. Unsubscribe m5076@interlynx.net from group
> From: "Mike" <m5076@interlynx.net>
> 4. Re: RE: [water leaks)
> From: pfgbrian@aol.com
> 5. Re: coins
> From: miabumpa@aol.com
> 6. Two Piece Metal Generator Fan/Pulley
> From: Allan Woodcock <awoodc@earthlink.net>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 06:49:44 -0400
> From: "Gord Souter" <houseboats@encode.com>
> Subject: RE: [water leaks)
>
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:58:52 EDT
> From: pfgbrian@aol.com
> Subject: Water in the bilge
>
> Hello, I have a freshly restored Ampi. Went in and out of the water twice,
> and a total of maybe 5 minutes swimming. Got home, and found @ 1/2 gallon
in
> the bilge at the rear. Water was below drain plug level, and below bilge
> pump
> level (I used a wet vac to get out). A little dampness in the hood aea,
but
> not enough to have gone down drain tube. Could it have entered rear engine
> cover vents-I went pretty slow going in- maybe 10mph. What is normal on a
> fresh resto with new everything? Areas to check? Love our new car, but
just
> trying to learn as I can! Thanks! Brian in CA
>
>
> The best way to check water leaks is to take your rear seat out,remove
> undere seat cover,
> take main seat out(6 screws)and remove floor boards.put in a small piece
of
> plywood and a crate to sit on.Open engine lid.
> now go in the water very carfully and look for leaks.
> Main places to look for small leaks are;
> emergency brake cables
> rear axle bellow(this could be a big leek)
> body seams
> door seals(will come in at rear of door 6 inchs down threw opening.)
> front steering bellows
> tube to front trunk(could have hole in top of tube from wear of steering
arm
> touching it)
> if water is coming from front tube could befront bumper bolts,park lites
or
> head lites.
> look in engine compartment ,could be rear bumper bolts,rear trim between
> bumpers,
> drain plug.or body seams.
>
> My final test proved to be in the engine compartment.the water seamed to
be
> steaming in form under the battery(l have the original box)
> This is where a brace bracket is welded on the car.On final exam on hoist
l
> found the seam had opened up letting water in the side fender cavity and
> when it filled it overfowed out under the batery. small amount of seam
> filler solved the problem.
>
> I have install a glass floor()lexan)in my car(got the idea from Dave Molen
> in Florida)
> and can keep a very close watch fo leaks at anytime now.
>
> I may have some good news for northern clum members in Oct, more on that
> later.
>
> 1st Amphicar criuse in was a flop as far as cars showing(only jeff and me)
> two other oweners showed up with out there cars , we had a good talk and
> lots of rides in cojuntion with the boat show.
> Over 320 show cars and rods lined the main street of Orillia.good 50s
dance
> etc.
>
> GORD SOUTER 62 white
> ORILLIA ONT>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 08:48:00 -0300
> From: Arnold Hite <ahite@Charleston.Net>
> Subject: checking for leaks
>
> Brian,
>
> I doubt water is coming in around the engine vents. I get a little
> water at the front hood seal but not enough to worry about much. The best
> way to tell where the water is coming from is to remove the rear seat and
> watch while you put the car in the water. The leak will probably be
> obvious, but even if you can't see the leak directly, you will see the
> direction water is flowing from. Other club members will suggest putting
a
> hose in the car while on land with plug in and checking for leaks
> underneath. I haven't found this as helpful but it is less trouble than
> removing the seat and driving to a ramp.
>
> Arnold Hite
> Johns Island, SC
>
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:58:52 EDT
> > From: pfgbrian@aol.com
> > Subject: Water in the bilge
> >
> > Hello, I have a freshly restored Ampi. Went in and out of the water
twice,
> > and a total of maybe 5 minutes swimming. Got home, and found @ 1/2
gallon
> in
> > the bilge at the rear. Water was below drain plug level, and below bilge
> pump
> > level (I used a wet vac to get out). A little dampness in the hood aea,
> but
> > not enough to have gone down drain tube. Could it have entered rear
engine
> > cover vents-I went pretty slow going in- maybe 10mph. What is normal on
a
> > fresh resto with new everything? Areas to check? Love our new car, but
> just
> > trying to learn as I can! Thanks! Brian in CA
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 09:55:10 -0400
> From: "Mike" <m5076@interlynx.net>
> Subject: Unsubscribe m5076@interlynx.net from group
>
> I have noticed there are constantly members asking to be removed from you
list.
>
> I have personally tried to do this 4 times, following your directions
exactly, but still I receive e-mails.
>
> Instead of trying to be a smart ass by suggesting we use duct tape on our
computers, maybe you should perfect your own e-mail system.
>
> Dr. Michael Smith
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:29:51 EDT
> From: pfgbrian@aol.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [water leaks)
>
> Thanks for the input. We think most of the leaks are coming from under the
> hood area-lights, steering seal, bumber brackets, etc. Went out again for
20
> minutes and picked up @ 3+ gallons.
>
> In regards to the new floor, how thick do you recommend for the lexan. I
> wouldn't mind spending the money on that-is a great idea!!!
>
> Thanks!
> Brian in CA
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:58:16 EDT
> From: miabumpa@aol.com
> Subject: Re: coins
>
> scott have not recived info for ordering coin please e-mail to me at
> miabumpa@aol.com so i can send $ thanks jay plum 67
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 15:27:04 -0700
> From: Allan Woodcock <awoodc@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Two Piece Metal Generator Fan/Pulley
>
> I have rounded up a few of these generator fan/pulley sets. They are
> cleaned and painted and they are used. I have removed tham from Truimph
> generators. The price is $45. Hugh has no pulleys and only a few fans.
> He won't sell the fans he has. The part number at Gordon's is
> 1-09-04b. I have posted photo's on my Ampicarbumpers.com page so anyone
> interested should take a look and see which of the two styles they
> want. I have two 67 'Amphi's and they each have a different generator
> in that the fan spacing from the generator housing is not the same.
> e-mail: awoodc@earthlink.net.
>
> Allan Woodcock
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
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Carla Brieshaber

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Subject: RE: [amphicar-lovers] Digest Number 387


Hey Joel!
I live in East Syracuse, have three, yes three Amphicars at the house, have
a close friend in town who sells trailers of all types (cargo), friends in
Jamesville, family in Lake Worth, Port St. Lucie, Orlando,and Tampa-St.Pete, FL.
What more could you ask for? Rob Gregory and his car were used at a friend's
wedding this past weekend! Anyhow, I'm here and drydocked!! Ready, willing and
able here in beautiful central NY (1/2 the year anyway)!
Gary P. Grieshaber
63,64 & 65
P.S. My dad sold Amphicars in 65 & 66. I've always had at least one!



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My apologies to the folks in Kingston who were waiting for us to participate
this past Saturday. I had flown from Fort Lauderdale to Syracuse on Friday
night to get the Amphi (supposed to be an early start) and proceed to the
Swimin. Unfortunately, we forgot our car keys in FLL for the Isuzu which was
parked at Syracuse Airport. This necessitated that my wife send the keys on
Saturday by Delta Dash, but we couldn't get them until 2:30 p.m. Then, we
went to my friend's house in Jamesville, a suburb of Syracuse, where the
Amphi was (and still is) safely parked in their garage. We packed up the
Amphi on our precarious trailer, pulled out of the driveway, and within 3
miles we had a flat tire. We couldn't tell right away, and as a result, the
tire got cut up to shreds. These are unusual tires that we bought in
Stamford, Connecticut, last year when the then-nearly-bald tires had blown,
one after another. To no avail, the new tires did not serve us well, and
when we perceived the tire problem, it was nearly 6:00 p.m. Saturday night,
and there was nowhere to get a new tire, especially this unusual size. We
actually had to leave the Amphi back at our friends house and fly back to
FLL-Miami to work. We're kind of disgusted with the tire problems and even
the trailer, and would like to purchase a new trailer, to bring the car back
to Florida. I know much has been written, but I wonder what would be a good
trailer that I could buy somewhere in the New York/New Jersey/Pennsylvania
area. Our hope is to trailer the car to the Swim-in in Mays Landing, and
proceed on to Florida. Any suggestions out there about a trailer? I saw one
in Celina that looked really neat...low, sleek, and it had a piece in the
front (like a chariot) to deflect air. It was parked in back of the Holiday
Inn. Ian got a speeding ticket in Carbondale, PA, going down one of those
long hills (I think they like to nab cars with Florida plates) and long
delays at Newark Airport, 1 1/2 hours on the Tarmac and missing our
connecting flight in Atlanta -- fortunately Delta got us on the milk-run
leaving Atlanta at midnight and arriving in FLL at 1:45 a.m. Monday morning.
The best thing about the trip was the Portuguese food we had in the
Ironbound section of Newark before leaving for the airport, well, there was
that beautiful ride in Lake Cazenovia, in the Finger Lakes, on Saturday
Afternoon...a clear August day, sunny, and lots of beautiful scenery, houses
on the hills, on the shore of the lake, two seaplanes, including a Laker and
a Supercub, and plenty of folk fishin'and enjoyin' themselves. Our thanks to
Rob Gregory who drives a green '67 in Lake Skaneateles. We saw Rob two weeks
ago, when we visited him for a brief foray into the 300 foot deep lake. The
entry on the town ramp requires a 90 degree turn immediately upon entering
the water, but Rob showed us how to do it. Late that day, we listened to
Jazz at the Sherwood Inn and reminisced about good times. -- Joel Stewart



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Ray Handloser

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Jodi Wyre from Autofest in Evansville, Indiana has promised me that
every Amphicar that comes to Autofest will receive a Autofest poster.
These posters have an Amphicar on them. All she needs to know is How
Many Are Coming? So...How many are coming? Ray
 
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wick68355@aol.com

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2">What is the number of the Fram oil filter with the check valve? Also what
spark plugs do you use?

Tim Wick

white 63

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wick68355@aol.com

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2">After our trip to Lake Geneva I sold my trailer to a friend who is building a Dodge Dart drag car. I had the trailer for six years and he gave me about what I had into it. Now I am going to start looking for something different for next season. Who out there has any suggestions as to what you use and what works well and how much should I pay?

Tim Wick

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