Muffler

amphi_sc

Member
Regarding cross posted topic in the "Strange Brake Failure" thread:

>>Questions, How do you start a new thread here? I cannot find the
>> "Start new thread" button. My next question is, is there an off the
>> shelf muffler that fits the Amphicar or does everyone buy what
>> Gordon Imports sells? Thanks

> I believe that Gord Souter may also sell mufflers?

About 8 - 10 years ago, I used a resonator for a ( 70's? ) VW rabbit. It has a nice tone, is a small short oval with inlet/outlet at the ends (so needed to bend a pipe for the input, and set outlet to straight out ... lines up with the normal exhaust exit.) I welded a strap onto it to help support it via the engine brace. I don't know if a muffler shop might stock that any more or not. And it isn't a straight bolt up as you need to do a little custom work.
 

LSolheim

Member
This is the California VW muffler, identical (or looks identical: round
cylinder w/ ports at each end) to the current Amphicar standard. I've used
them since 1994.



VW P/N 043 251 051C Muffler, 1975 - 1979, California only, includes Super
Beetle



$75.00 at http://www.vintagepartsinc.com/ Look in the catalog under Group
200.



I gave this information to Hugh some years ago; I don't know if these are
the parts he is re-selling or not.



--Larry



From: amphi_sc [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:18 AM
To: lrsnpark@gmail.com
Subject: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20149] Muffler



Regarding cross posted topic in the "Strange Brake Failure" thread:


>>Questions, How do you start a new thread here? I cannot find the
>> "Start new thread" button. My next question is, is there an off the
>> shelf muffler that fits the Amphicar or does everyone buy what
>> Gordon Imports sells? Thanks

> I believe that Gord Souter may also sell mufflers?
About 8 - 10 years ago, I used a resonator for a ( 70's? ) VW rabbit. It has
a nice tone, is a small short oval with inlet/outlet at the ends (so needed
to bend a pipe for the input, and set outlet to straight out ... lines up
with the normal exhaust exit.) I welded a strap onto it to help support it
via the engine brace. I don't know if a muffler shop might stock that any
more or not. And it isn't a straight bolt up as you need to do a little
custom work.
 

sublimate

New Member
While we're (semi-) on the subject:
is there any substitute which will work reasonably well for an air cleaner?

Doesn't need to look exactly stock - just fit and use an off-the-shelf air cleaner.
 

Propcar50

Member
Does the chrome tailpipe adapter fit over the tailpipe of this model?

Randy
Maryland

-------------- Original message --------------
From: LSolheim <>

This is the California VW muffler, identical (or looks identical: round
cylinder w/ ports at each end) to the current Amphicar standard. I've used
them since 1994.



VW P/N 043 251 051C Muffler, 1975 - 1979, California only, includes Super
Beetle



$75.00 at http://www.vintagepartsinc.com/ Look in the catalog under Group
200.



I gave this information to Hugh some years ago; I don't know if these are
the parts he is re-selling or not.



--Larry



From: amphi_sc [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 9:18 AM
To: lrsnpark@gmail.com
Subject: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20149] Muffler



Regarding cross posted topic in the "Strange Brake Failure" thread:



Quote:

>>Questions, How do you start a new thread here? I cannot find the
>> "Start new thread" button. My next question is, is there an off the
>> shelf muffler that fits the Amphicar or does everyone buy what
>> Gordon Imports sells? Thanks


Quote:

> I believe that Gord Souter may also sell mufflers?
About 8 - 10 years ago, I used a resonator for a ( 70's? ) VW rabbit. It has
a nice tone, is a small short oval with inlet/outlet at the ends (so needed
to bend a pipe for the input, and set outlet to straight out ... lines up
with the normal exhaust exit.) I welded a strap onto it to help support it
via the engine brace. I don't know if a muffler shop might stock that any
more or not. And it isn't a straight bolt up as you need to do a little
custom work.
 

CapnJohn

Amphi Guru & Former IAOC President
Does the chrome tailpipe adapter fit over the tailpipe of this model?
The BugHaus muffler (1977 VW Calif fuel injected only) muffler still needs the tailpipe. Hugh has the tailpipe/chrome tip and they fit perfectly. Get your muffler from BugHaus and order the tailpipe and chrome tip from Hugh.
 

mike_israel

Amphicar Forum Admin
Staff member
In looking around, these are available from a number of VW specialty shops.

One thing to keep in mind is that some are made in Germany/Italy, others come from Brazil.* In general, the brazilian parts tend to be of inferior quality.* Some of the sites do specify country of origin and some even offer both.

Mike
 

Propcar50

Member
I asked because I have the chrome tailpipe, but it does not fit over the tailpipe on the car's current muffler, which was on the car when I purchased it.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Propcar50 View Post

Does the chrome tailpipe adapter fit over the tailpipe of this model?

The BugHaus muffler (1977 VW Calif fuel injected only) muffler still needs the tailpipe. Hugh has the tailpipe/chrome tip and they fit perfectly. Get your muffler from BugHaus and order the tailpipe and chrome tip from Hugh.


-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: CapnJohn <>
 
All fuel Injected bug mufflers from 1975-1979 (Cal. only) should be the same. Thanks for the tip on Bug Haus, muffler has been ordered, should have it soon. I will compare it to Hughs when i get it and let you know what i find. (I am building 2 cars). For the tailpipe i thought I would take Hughs to a muffler shop and have a pc of stainless bent up to match then get Hughs chrome extension. Still cant see where to start a new thread???
 

CapnJohn

Amphi Guru & Former IAOC President
All fuel Injected bug mufflers from 1975-1979 (Cal. only) should be the same. Thanks for the tip on Bug Haus, muffler has been ordered, should have it soon. I will compare it to Hughs when i get it and let you know what i find. (I am building 2 cars).
What you will find is the SAME muffler Hugh sells for much more $. The P/N listing as I recall showed '77 only, I wouldn't have any idea what the difference is for other years.
 

DavidC

Amphicar Expert
Anyone know what way around the gas flow is in that muffler when it's fitted to the VW ? I think it might be the other way ? If so I wonder if it would cause problems. I had what looks like the same muffler fitted to one of my cars some years ago and found it was loud but also very hot where the gas came in from the manifold pipe. Would be good to cut one open and see how it's routed inside.

Amphicar really did a great job on the original muffler, it seems to tick all the boxes for being quiet, gas efficient but also doesn't get too hot. I've not seen any replacement that works better, maybe it's time to have some made to the original design ?

David C

----- Original Message -----
From: canitfloat
To: david@manbus.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20149] Re: Muffler


All fuel Injected bug mufflers from 1975-1979 (Cal. only) should be the same. Thanks for the tip on Bug Haus, muffler has been ordered, should have it soon. I will compare it to Hughs when i get it and let you know what i find. (I am building 2 cars). For the tailpipe i thought I would take Hughs to a muffler shop and have a pc of stainless bent up to match then get Hughs chrome extension. Still cant see where to start a new thread???
 

mike_israel

Amphicar Forum Admin
Staff member
A couple years back someone at Celina (the guy with the disc brakes) had an original style stainless unit fitted to their Amphi .* I think it was custom made but was very nice.
 
Your right David, the nipple on the side of the muffler body that connects to the header J pipe on the Amphi is the tailpipe on the Injected VW Bug. Am I wrong in assuming Hugh has investigated this and has found that the 1147 performs better and thus has dubbed this the 8-28-01HP KIT, "High Performance":032: muffler?
 
Mike, I believe you are refering to Sam from IN. He has done neat things with his car.
Larry



----- Original Message ----
From: mike_israel <>
To: larrydepasquale@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:45:36 PM
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20149] Re: Muffler


A couple years back someone at Celina (the guy with the disc brakes) had an original style stainless unit fitted to their Amphi .* I think it was custom made but was very nice.
 

Bilgemaster

Member
"Neat?"...Man, ain't that an understatement! If it's the same fellow
from Indiana whose tricked out disk braked, super-stainlessed and
LED-lit Amphi I saw in Celina a few years back, then I'd say his engine
bay looks like a friggin' Romulan pleasure craft. Just stunning. So
much so that there really should be a whole section on that Amphi and
maybe the one with the aft-mounted Bass boat perch, teak deck and
out-of-the-side Harley tailpipes titled "What if..." on the Club
website.

Regards,
Bilgey

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:32 pm, Larry DePasquale wrote:

> Mike, I believe you are refering to Sam from IN. He has done neat
> things with his car.
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mike_israel <>
> To: larrydepasquale@yahoo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:45:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20149] Re: Muffler
>
> A couple years back someone at Celina (the guy with the disc brakes)
> had an original style stainless unit fitted to their Amphi .* I think
> it was custom made but was very nice.
>
>
 

jfriese

Active Member
Yes, the exhaust does run the other way in the VW but it doesn't seem to matter. I've used these mufflers, under various brands, for years but they're not all the same. I used Hugh's old high performance muffler and found it too loud. I'm the one that first tried the Arvin Meritor brand and found that they sounded nice. Not as quiet as the original Amphicar muffler but I'm running them on 1296 engines and those are not as quiet an engine anyway. I told Hugh that I liked the sound of this muffler and didn't like his. He found a source for them and I think it's the one he's still selling.

John Friese
67 White
67 Red
 
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