Motor Pull

[wick68355@aol.com]

Having pulled many engines in my career, if you have all the bolts removed
the engine and bell housing should separate. You might try lifting the engine
up a little bit then supporting the transmission. But either way it should
separate from each other.
T. W.

 

[tommyintpa@aol.com]

In a message dated 10/12/02 5:17:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
isettajohn@aol.com writes:


> . Am I missing something or is it just stuck together? Any ideas
> how to separate them without taking the whole lot out as a unit or is
> this the only option? JW
>
>
>

Hi, I just pulled the motor out of Weird Harold last Thursday. I left the
bell housing attached to the motor so I only removed the four bolts that hold
transmission to the bell housing. You may have forgotten to remove the
starter, that will hold the block to the transmission. You also need to
remove the bracket that is bolted to the motor mounts, you can't get the
motor out over it. You don't need to block the transmission up if the mounts
are good. It is good that you are pulling the motor, because the clutch was
going to chatter so bad you were not going to be able to drive it anyhow. You
will need to resurface the flywheel and replace the clutch and maybe
throughout bearing. Contact me off list and I will tell you just how to
adjust it BEFORE you reinstall it so it wont chatter. Good luck, feel free to
contact me, Tommy in Tampa


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[John]

I have an Amphi with only 974 original miles. Problem is the motor is
stuck from sitting so long. I tried everything to free it up
including removing the head to relieve valve train pressures but no
go. I have decided to yank the block out and rebuilt what has to be
done. I removed all bellhousing bolts, mounts and anything that
should be holding it in. The engine just wont seperate from the
trans. Am I missing something or is it just stuck together? Any ideas
how to seperate them without taking the whole lot out as a unit or is
this the only option? JW

 

[Ed Price]

I have read a couple of stern warnings that the drive shaft extending from the
land transmission should never be used as a "handle", that is, never put any
radial force on that shaft.

1. When you pull the engine away from the land transmission, what comes out with
the engine? Not having been there yet, it looks like the entire clutch assembly
slides off the transmission shaft, with just the clutch throw-out bearing
remaining on the transmission shaft. Right?

2. When the engine is nearly mated to the land transmission, it looks like the
transmission shaft external splines engage the driven clutch plate internal
splines. This should be a pretty tight fit. If you try to lift the engine a bit
at this time, doesn't that put tremendous radial load on the transmission shaft?

3. You might want to try to loosen the engine / transmission by putting the
Amphi in gear and gently rocking the Amphi forward and backward. This will not
radially stress the connection at all.

Ed
El Cajon
67 Rust Guppy

----- Original Message -----
From: wick68355@aol.com
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Motor Pull


Having pulled many engines in my career, if you have all the bolts removed
the engine and bell housing should separate. You might try lifting the engine
up a little bit then supporting the transmission. But either way it should
separate from each other.
T. W.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

 

[tommyintpa@aol.com]

Re: Re: Motor Pull

In a message dated 10/13/02 8:01:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
isettajohn@aol.com writes:


> I will try leaving
> the bell housing as you did and take the 4 trans bolts out now.
> (Fingers crossed) JW
>
>
>

Hi JW, If the transmission mounts are bad or have been removed then the oil
pan may be sitting on the floor, that would bind it for sure. Tommy in Tampa


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[John]

--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., tommyintpa@a... wrote:
> Hi, I just pulled the motor out of Weird Harold last Thursday. I
left the bell housing attached to the motor so I only removed the
four bolts that hold transmission to the bell housing. You may have
forgotten to remove the starter, that will hold the block to the
transmission. You also need to remove the bracket that is bolted to
the motor mounts, you can't get the motor out over it.


Both items were removed. I have been working on cars for 35
years so this isn't my first motor job, just the first Amphi. Thats
why I'm a little baffled why it won't come out. I will try leaving
the bell housing as you did and take the 4 trans bolts out now.
(Fingers crossed) JW

 

[Larry Solheim]

Re: Re: Motor Pull

Withthe engine "frozen" as tight as you describe, it's
possible that some corrosion has locked the
transmission shaft splines to the flywheel. I also
recommend pulling the bellhousing with the motor. It
is fairly easy, using a screwdriver, to lightly pry
the square end of the bellhousing away from the
transmision at all four bolt locations. I have taken
both xmission and engine together (although then you
have to pull the rear axle assys) to separate on the
floor or a stand -- if so it's helpful to raise the
rear of the Amphicar slightly to improve the
extraction angle.

From past experience, you'll probably find the bearing
OK, but the rings stuck in the piston grooves, against
the cylinder walls.

Good luck!

--LarryS

--- John <isettajohn@aol.com> wrote:
> --- In amphicar-lovers@y..., tommyintpa@a... wrote:
> > Hi, I just pulled the motor out of Weird Harold
> last Thursday. I
> left the bell housing attached to the motor so I
> only removed the
> four bolts that hold transmission to the bell
> housing. You may have
> forgotten to remove the starter, that will hold the
> block to the
> transmission. You also need to remove the bracket
> that is bolted to
> the motor mounts, you can't get the motor out over
> it.
>
>
> Both items were removed. I have been working on
> cars for 35
> years so this isn't my first motor job, just the
> first Amphi. Thats
> why I'm a little baffled why it won't come out. I
> will try leaving
> the bell housing as you did and take the 4 trans
> bolts out now.
> (Fingers crossed) JW
>
>


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