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watercar64

Guest
the car I purchased was in storage foe 20 years, with little
rust, I had the valves done but did not go into the rest of the
engine , the comppersson onthe cyilinders 120 pounds on all cyilnreds
after the valve grind my guestion ? should I go further into the
engine befor I install it . I have a few pin holes of rust on the
bottom . I used J.B weld on would like some in put
thank you. Ross.donald@netzero.com
 
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Randall Bograd

Guest
You might want to probe the areas where water would have collected, like
the bottom of the rear wheel wells. It might look good but there's a
chance you'll find soft spots that are leaks waiting to happen. It took a
good sand blasting to reveal all the spots in my car.

Randy
 
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Bill Connelly

Guest
If the compression on all the cylinders is pretty much even throughout, then
your likely running sweetly, as long as you're sure there's not a lot of oil
in the cylinder bores giving a false "tight-as-a-drum" reading. Some folks
in your position might have had hardened valve seats laid in by a machine
shop to compensate for today's lead-free gas, but as valve seat recession
typically seems to be something of a complete non-issue with these robust
and fairly low-stress engines, even though they were designed for leaded
fuel, I might not recommend doing it now. Just keep an eye on your valve
clearances, like at 100, 500 and 1000 miles, until everything's settled in.
For more on the topic of "valve recession" and unleaded fuel use, see
http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/m2664.html .

One tip I would pass on from David Chapman (see
http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/m2518.html ), would be to very
carefully examine your oil pan. As these often rest for long periods in
water in the bilge, it is apparently not uncommon for them to suffer
corrosion, pitting and eventually pinholes that'll let out your engine oil
and let in that marvelous and mysterious stuff called "bilgewater," which'll
sooner or later make the smooth faces of your crankshaft and bearings
resemble Ernest Borgnine's face after three-day bender. Better to see it
now than later. You might also want to take a quick look at David's engine
info page at http://www.amphicars.com/actengin.htm , especially the last
"Other Points" part.

Another item which bears close examination might be the teeth on the starter
ring (Part 1-03-11a). If any of its teeth seem especially worn, chipped or
broken, you might consider either replacing the ring, or at least, if it's
not too ragged, reversing the ring to squeeze a little more life out of it.
Damaged or worn teeth here is a very common issue, and if the starter can't
grab these teeth right, one day you'll be dead in the water, or land, or
outside the Evening Star Trailer Court in Cozad, Nebraska asking a large
hairy fella named "Boo" to give you a good shove from behind.

If you'd like to squeeze a couple of extra horses out of the engine and even
run a little cooler in the bargain, then check out Tampa Tommy's Tips at
http://www.amphicar.com/performanceboost.htm . In fact, you might want to
just rummage ALL around the Club's "Restoration and Repair Resources" page
at http://www.amphicar.com/restoration.htm for stuff you can use.

I'm sure other owners who've done their own engine yanks will be able to
chime in with their recommendations and suggestions about oil seals that
ought to be replaced while the getting-at's good, and other "low hanging
fruit" that's easy and advisable to do now with the engine out of the car.

If it's been really been sitting for 20 years, then when you do put it back
in the car, you might want to consider running a nice purging "flush" made
up of any old cheapo store brand standard engine oil, substituting one quart
of it with Marvel Mystery Oil, just to loosen up and swish out those
ancient cruds. Then drain it after just a couple-few hundred miles and
refill with AMSOIL (see http://www.amphicar.net/amsoil/ ).

Best of Luck!
~Bilgey~



----- Original Message -----
From: watercar64
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 4:20 PM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] In storage


the car I purchased was in storage foe 20 years, with little
rust, I had the valves done but did not go into the rest of the
engine , the comppersson onthe cyilinders 120 pounds on all cyilnreds
after the valve grind my guestion ? should I go further into the
engine befor I install it . I have a few pin holes of rust on the
bottom . I used J.B weld on would like some in put
thank you. Ross.donald@netzero.com



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PVCJ PVCJ

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Thats right" I had my car bottom sandblasted and whound up replacing the
whole floor?
It was weak and i did not want any problems down the road. But my car was a
real rust
bucket that needed alot of work and a year later I,m still working on it...
Yours don,t
sound to bad so good luck and happy motoring
Paul--67 amphy
Albany NY


>From: Randall Bograd <rdboggie@juno.com>
>Reply-To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
>To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] In storage
>Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:19:48 -0400
>
>You might want to probe the areas where water would have collected, like
>the bottom of the rear wheel wells. It might look good but there's a
>chance you'll find soft spots that are leaks waiting to happen. It took a
>good sand blasting to reveal all the spots in my car.
>
>Randy

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Bill Connelly

Guest
Thats right" I had my car bottom sandblasted and whound up replacing the
whole floor?
It was weak and i did not want any problems down the road. But my car was a
real rust
bucket that needed alot of work and a year later I,m still working on it...
Yours don,t
sound to bad so good luck and happy motoring
Paul--67 amphy
Albany NY

=====================

Paul,

A major payoff to all that elbow greasing you're up to in Albany is not only
being in a GREAT "target rich" locale to have a running swimming Amphi, but
also that you're likely sooner or later to hook up with a bunch of my very
favorite beings in the galaxy, like I detailed in that earlier "chin-up"
posting to this List at
http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/m11940.html .

And speaking of favorites, my fellow Washington, D.C. area web-toed motorman
Randy Bograd just sent me a great Word document detailing one of his
favorite water haunts, the upper Potomac River at Seneca Creek (I'm a LOWER
Potomac dweller...like that should be a big surprise!). It's a busy weekend
coming up for me, but if I get a chance I'm gonna transform Randy's work
into a somewhat leaner and more "webby" document...maybe link it up somehow
with that great "California Amphicar Owners' Guide" already at
http://www.amphicar.net/sandiego as perhaps the beginnings of some kind of
North American "Amphicar Friendly Waterways/My Favorite Swims" type guide,
like folks were talking about recently. So folks, even if you're more
comfortable with your Word processor, like if you might guess that "HTML" is
that sealant tape stuff or that "FTP" delivers flowers, you should still
fire up the humble old Word and start cobbling together something about YOUR
favorite watering holes. For a preview of Randy's oeuvre in its original
Word document format, for the time being you can check out:
www.amphicar.net/sandiego/RandyBogradFavorite.doc

~Bilgey~
 
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PVCJ PVCJ

Guest
Hello Bilgey
I,m trying real hard to get my amphi done. most of the main body is done? I
put the doors back on to make sure the quater pannels i put on line up
right, Looks almost like a car with the doors on it.
I have most all the new parts i need for the michanical part of the car. I
also meet another amphicar
owner that lives in saratoga. that makes four that lives with in 20 miles of
me, I also heard of a old man that has three amphis in a barn? I met some
guy in wal-mart that knew where he lived but he past away before we had a
chance to go to his house..I,m looking forword to meeting some of you guys
as soon as my car gets done.Well got to go talk to you all later
almost 67 amphi PAUL
from ALBANY





>From: "Bill Connelly" <billiam@erols.com>
>Reply-To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
>To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] In storage
>Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 21:57:48 -0400
>
>Thats right" I had my car bottom sandblasted and whound up replacing the
>whole floor?
>It was weak and i did not want any problems down the road. But my car was a
>real rust
>bucket that needed alot of work and a year later I,m still working on it...
>Yours don,t
>sound to bad so good luck and happy motoring
> Paul--67
>amphy
>Albany NY
>
>=====================
>
>Paul,
>
>A major payoff to all that elbow greasing you're up to in Albany is not
>only
>being in a GREAT "target rich" locale to have a running swimming Amphi, but
>also that you're likely sooner or later to hook up with a bunch of my very
>favorite beings in the galaxy, like I detailed in that earlier "chin-up"
>posting to this List at
>http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/m11940.html .
>
>And speaking of favorites, my fellow Washington, D.C. area web-toed
>motorman
>Randy Bograd just sent me a great Word document detailing one of his
>favorite water haunts, the upper Potomac River at Seneca Creek (I'm a LOWER
>Potomac dweller...like that should be a big surprise!). It's a busy
>weekend
>coming up for me, but if I get a chance I'm gonna transform Randy's work
>into a somewhat leaner and more "webby" document...maybe link it up somehow
>with that great "California Amphicar Owners' Guide" already at
>http://www.amphicar.net/sandiego as perhaps the beginnings of some kind of
>North American "Amphicar Friendly Waterways/My Favorite Swims" type guide,
>like folks were talking about recently. So folks, even if you're more
>comfortable with your Word processor, like if you might guess that "HTML"
>is
>that sealant tape stuff or that "FTP" delivers flowers, you should still
>fire up the humble old Word and start cobbling together something about
>YOUR
>favorite watering holes. For a preview of Randy's oeuvre in its original
>Word document format, for the time being you can check out:
>www.amphicar.net/sandiego/RandyBogradFavorite.doc
>
>~Bilgey~
>
>

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