Front coil-over shocks

Ken Chambers

Platinum Subscriber
Surplus Center has coil-over shocks that are a close fit for the
Amphicar front end - with two possible exceptions.

While the extended length and travel are very close to Amphicar
original, these units may be a bit weak. Spring rate is listed at 110
lbs/inch. I think the Maeco PK22K1 units they once sold (and I'm
still using with good success) were rated a bit stronger, perhaps
around 150 or 180 but I can't remember. Also the 3/8" bushings are
too small and would require 7/16" bushings pressed in (and then
drilled out a few thousandths to 12mm).

https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009091814301038&catname=&qty=1&item=28-1721

Anyway, the price is dirt cheap if anyone wants to experiment and
report back.

Best,
Ken Chambers
 

SNKR770

Member
Ken,

Based on the information posted as to the spring rates etc earlier this spring I made a set of mounts that fit onto these shocks and have ran them the later part of this summer. I bought a set of 180lb springs from summit racing and turned up a custom set of collars that slip onto the shock. The car handles like a dream and the modification is in my opinion completely safe. If someone has access to CNC equipment a bunch of these could easily be made. Due to liability reasons and the sue happy world we live in I'm hesitant to share what I've learned but feel its a big cost saver for those who are a budget builder like myself, and has to cut costs somewhere. I've got a cad drawings of them if someone wants to have some made. I know there will be the critics out there and I'm not telling anyone its the right thing or wrong thing to do but its worked for me and am extremly happy with the ride and would not do it if I did not feel the modification was 100% safe for me and my passengers. I was able to build the set for under $100. (This doens't take into account my time and access to the equipment to build) If someone know of the rear spring rates and a shock with the right lengths I'd be happy to try and make something work with them as well this winter. I've got several pictures I'd be glad to share. I've got a bunch of things I came up with that I came up with that I'd like to think others would possibly be interested in now that I'm done with my restoration. I just need the time to sit down and compile the information. Such as the rear brake brackets, heater fan for the round style heater using a attwood fan and my custom bracket. Take a look at the attached pictures. I've not had much luck with attachments so I hope they show.
 

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bkahler

Member
Hi,

The spring modification you made looks darn good. One possibility for
having a small run of parts made would be to use something like EMachineShop
http://www.emachineshop.com/. I haven't personally used them but I know of
people who have that have been satisfied.

I for one would love to have a copy of your cad drawings to see if I could
get a set made.

Great work!

Brad
1963 Amphicar

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, SNKR770 <>wrote:


> Ken,
>
> Based on the information posted as to the spring rates etc earlier this
> spring I made a set of mounts that fit onto these shocks and have ran them
> the later part of this summer. I bought a set of 180lb springs from summit
> racing and turned up a custom set of collars that slip onto the shock. The
> car handles like a dream and the modification is in my opinion completely
> safe. If someone has access to CNC equipment a bunch of these could easily
> be made. Due to liability reasons and the sue happy world we live in I'm
> hesitant to share what I've learned but feel its a big cost saver for those
> who are a budget builder like myself, and has to cut costs somewhere. I've
> got a cad drawings of them if someone wants to have some made. I know there
> will be the critics out there and I'm not telling anyone its the right thing
> or wrong thing to do but its worked for me and am extremly happy with the
> ride and would not do it if I did not feel the modification was 100% safe
> for me and my passengers. I was able to build the set for under $100. (This
> doens't take into account my time and access to the equipment to build) If
> someone know of the rear spring rates and a shock with the right lengths I'd
> be happy to try and make something work with them as well this winter. I've
> got several pictures I'd be glad to share. I've got a bunch of things I came
> up with that I came up with that I'd like to think others would possibly be
> interested in now that I'm done with my restoration. I just need the time to
> sit down and compile the information. Such as the rear brake brackets,
> heater fan for the round style heater using a attwood fan and my custom
> bracket. Take a look at the attached pictures. I've not had much luck with
> attachments so I hope they show.
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Midwest Amphicar

Worlds Largest Amphicar Destination
Nice work. I might need a pair of rear axles extended. What do You think ? Are you selling the brake cable adapter? Later Dave the Wave
 

TORTAK

New Member
I need to replace my front shocks so I could go that route. I could make up those parts for my self and anyone who is interested, what shocks are you using, the Surpluscenter ?

Tony In NH


Hi,

The spring modification you made looks darn good. One possibility for
having a small run of parts made would be to use something like EMachineShop
CNC Machine Shop | Custom Waterjet, Plasma, Laser Cutting | eMachineShop.com I haven't personally used them but I know of
people who have that have been satisfied.

I for one would love to have a copy of your cad drawings to see if I could
get a set made.

Great work!

Brad
1963 Amphicar

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:27 PM, SNKR770 <>wrote:
 

SNKR770

Member
Tortak/Brad,

Yes, these are built using the Maeco Shocks from the Surplus Center.

The springs are from Summit Racing. I'll gather all the specific info, links and model numbers and post into a thread for future reference.

I have not looked into it but think you could do the same thing if you wanted to use the original springs with these shocks. I'll post the native Solidworks file. If someone wants to mess with it they can.

BTW I talked with an engineer at Monroe. These are Monroe shocks. I was told Maeco is a acronoym for Monroe Automotive E(dont remember)? Company.

As for the CAD file I'd like to just post it somewhere so that people that want it can just grab it and do with it what they wish. Is there a spot for this kind of thing somewhere? Give me a few days and I'll try to compile everything into a single thread so that its locked into the archives for those who wish to use the information in the future. I've certianly relied on the information from this site over the past three years of my restoration and am more than willing to give back what I've learned along the way as well.

As for the Brake bracket. There again I have a cad file that if someone wants to have them made I'd be happy to send it to them or better yet post them somewhere.

As for the heater housing. I used the large attwood bildge blower and made a custom housing. I have a cad file for that as well. It was built using a rapid prototyping process know as SLS but could also be done on a FDM. If there were enough people interested I might be able to have some made from some old resin at a reasonable price provided there was enough intrest. You don't really need the housing to make it work but it helps to keep the fan mounted square in the tube.


Later,
Ryan
 

Ken Chambers

Platinum Subscriber
Ryan,

I like what you did on both the shock spring mounts as well as the
brake cable angle bracket.

WRT the shocks it would be nice to make spring mounts for a more
easily obtainable shock, rather than that Maeco unit. While they are
certainly cheap enough through Surplus Center, they don't always have
them, in fact rarely have them. I also spoke with someone at Monroe a
while back in an attempt to locate a reliable source but hit a dead
end. What's needed is an inexpensive over the counter shock that can
accept spring mounts such as what you did on yours. The key is the
shock body requires the shoulder as on the Maeco units.

I downloaded from the Monroe site their Mounting & Length
Specifications document in an attempt to find some that would work.
Nothing a perfect candidate but there are some close possibilities if
new bushings are pressed in. But the required shoulder may not be
there. Also good to have no dust shield, but that could be removed.

If anyone wants to search other manufacturers here are the basic specs
for the Amphicar shocks:

Front: 13" extended length, 9.75 compressed, 12mm bolts
Rear: 15" extended length, 11.75 compressed, 14mm bolts

Nice selection of springs available from Summit Racing. Wide range of
spring rates, lengths and good prices.

Ken Chambers, CA
'64 Red


On Sep 20, 2009, at 7:27 PM, SNKR770 wrote:


> Ken,
>
> Based on the information posted as to the spring rates etc earlier
> this spring I made a set of mounts that fit onto these shocks and
> have ran them the later part of this summer. I bought a set of 180lb
> springs from summit racing and turned up a custom set of collars
> that slip onto the shock. The car handles like a dream and the
> modification is in my opinion completely safe. If someone has access
> to CNC equipment a bunch of these could easily be made. Due to
> liability reasons and the sue happy world we live in I'm hesitant to
> share what I've learned but feel its a big cost saver for those who
> are a budget builder like myself, and has to cut costs somewhere.
> I've got a cad drawings of them if someone wants to have some made.
> I know there will be the critics out there and I'm not telling
> anyone its the right thing or wrong thing to do but its worked for
> me and am extremly happy with the ride and would not do it if I did
> not feel the modification was 100% safe for me and my passengers. I
> was able to build the set for under $100. (This doens't take into
> account my time and access to the equipment to build) If someone
> know of the rear spring rates and a shock with the right lengths I'd
> be happy to try and make something work with them as well this
> winter. I've got several pictures I'd be glad to share. I've got a
> bunch of things I came up with that I came up with that I'd like to
> think others would possibly be interested in now that I'm done with
> my restoration. I just need the time to sit down and compile the
> information. Such as the rear brake brackets, heater fan for the
> round style heater using a attwood fan and my custom bracket. Take a
> look at the attached pictures. I've not had much luck with
> attachments so I hope they show.
>
> Attached to this message is net_004.jpg
>
> Attached to this message is net_012.jpg
>
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>
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PeterP

Member
Those look incredible. I sent an email to Summit Racing to see if they have a way to search by shock travel length and bushing size.

Would it make sense to put together a form letter with the shock specs and send it to as many shock manufacturers as we can think of to see if anybody makes a perfect fit?
 

TORTAK

New Member
Gord had some shocks listed on his websight that I used for the back of my car, that have been working good for me. I think he also had front shocks listed but he must be changing his websight because I can't get to them right now.

Jack contact me off list At tony@ortakales.com for the brackets.
Also We talked about getting together in October for a swimin up here in NH maybe Columbus day or the Sunday before ? I'm sure Mike l., Ron T. and Steve S. will come.

Tony In NH


Tony, I will take a set if you are making them. I need another alternator bracket too. Thanks, Jack in Mass.
 

SNKR770

Member
The surplus center shows that they have 50 shocks in hand. Therefore there is enough inventory to do 25 cars which may be enough inventory for those who want to go this route. I bought an extra 4 shock for future use if needed.

How I did the modification can be easily done to any other shock set up for coil overs with the right travel distance. It is possible that a shock that has the right amount of travel after the top is cut off and rethreaded back on might be able to work as well.

The modified Maeco design allows you to drop the new collars on and mount the springs to the shocks and car in about a half hour time.

Does anyone know the spring rate for the rear?

The link in your original email takes you to a different shock than what I used. Here is the correct link.
https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009092212222834&item=28-1343&catname=

SHOCK ABSORBER
New, MAECO model PK22K1. Shock only, no coil. Coil-over shock absorber assembly

SPECIFICATIONS
  • Travel 3-5/8"
  • Retracted Length 9-1/2"
  • Extended Length 13-1/8"
  • Mount 7/16" inside dia.
  • Load 200 lbs./in
  • Size 2'" dia. x 10-3/4"
  • Shpg. 3 lbs.
$18/ pair


Spring Info

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-9-180/
$86 for the pair


Spring Compressor
1 03980-1CVH Strut Spring Compressor @ $11.99

http://www.harborfreight.com


Shock Spring Retainers
$????? Depends on where you get done.
 

Propcar50

Member
Is there (or was there) a coil-over version of the Maeco PK22K1? Can I put my Amphi springs on the model being offered now?



Randy

Blue '67


----- Original Message -----
From: "SNKR770" <>
To: rdboggie@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:56:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-over shocks


The surplus center shows that they have 50 shocks in hand. Therefore there is enough inventory to do 25 cars which may be enough inventory for those who want to go this route. I bought an extra 4 shock for future use if needed.

How I did the modification can be easily done to any other shock set up for coil overs with the right travel distance. It is possible that a shock that has the right amount of travel after the top is cut off and rethreaded back on might be able to work as well.

The modified Maeco design allows you to drop the new collars on and mount the springs to the shocks and car in about a half hour time.

Does anyone know the spring rate for the rear?

The link in your original email takes you to a different shock than what I used. Here is the correct link.
https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.a...8-1343&catname =

SHOCK ABSORBER
New, MAECO model PK22K1. Shock only, no coil. Coil-over shock absorber assembly

SPECIFICATIONS

• Travel 3-5/8"
• Retracted Length 9-1/2"
• Extended Length 13-1/8"
• Mount 7/16" inside dia.
• Load 200 lbs./in
• Size 2'" dia. x 10-3/4"
• Shpg. 3 lbs.

$18/ pair


Spring Info

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-9-180/
$86 for the pair


Spring Compressor
1 03980-1CVH Strut Spring Compressor @ $11.99

http://www.harborfreight.com


Shock Spring Retainers
$????? Depends on where you get done.
 

bkahler

Member
Randy,

I think I can answer the first question. If I understand Ken's prior email
the first batch of Maeco shocks sold by the Surplus Center did have springs
on them. It looks like this new batch does not.

I've been meaning to ask the same question about the original amphicar
springs. Can we use the riginal amphicar springs on these Maeco shocks? If
not, then why not and what are the spring requirements?

Brad



On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Propcar50
<>wrote:


> Is there (or was there) a coil-over version of the Maeco PK22K1? Can I
> put my Amphi springs on the model being offered now?
>
>
>
> Randy
>
> Blue '67
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SNKR770" <>
> To: rdboggie@comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:56:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-over
> shocks
>
>
> The surplus center shows that they have 50 shocks in hand. Therefore there
> is enough inventory to do 25 cars which may be enough inventory for those
> who want to go this route. I bought an extra 4 shock for future use if
> needed.
>
> How I did the modification can be easily done to any other shock set up for
> coil overs with the right travel distance. It is possible that a shock that
> has the right amount of travel after the top is cut off and rethreaded back
> on might be able to work as well.
>
> The modified Maeco design allows you to drop the new collars on and mount
> the springs to the shocks and car in about a half hour time.
>
> Does anyone know the spring rate for the rear?
>
> The link in your original email takes you to a different shock than what I
> used. Here is the correct link.
> https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.a...8-1343&catname >
> SHOCK ABSORBER
> New, MAECO model PK22K1. Shock only, no coil. Coil-over shock absorber
> assembly
>
> SPECIFICATIONS
>
> • Travel 3-5/8"
> • Retracted Length 9-1/2"
> • Extended Length 13-1/8"
> • Mount 7/16" inside dia.
> • Load 200 lbs./in
> • Size 2'" dia. x 10-3/4"
> • Shpg. 3 lbs.
>
> $18/ pair
>
>
> Spring Info
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-9-180/
> $86 for the pair
>
>
> Spring Compressor
> 1 03980-1CVH Strut Spring Compressor @ $11.99
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com
>
>
> Shock Spring Retainers
> $????? Depends on where you get done.
>
>
>
 

LSolheim

Member
I also have used (am using) the original Maeco coil over shocks. Although I have a late model car with bayonet shock mounts, I built a bracket from 2 x 2 x ¼†square tubing (ACad drawing is available) to allow the cross-bolt type shocks to adapt to the car. The springs on the Maeco shocks are slightly lighter duty than the original Amphicar shocks, but I have over 65,000 miles of driving/flat towing to show proof that they work just fine.



I see no reason that with the proper spring brackets (such as Ryan made) for the original Amphicar springs, that these shocks will not work equally well with the original Amphicar springs. Although my well used original Maeco shock assemblies continue to work fine, when I removed them for inspection at about 67K miles it appeared that the snowmobile springs (although pretty much the same rate as the Amphicar springs, but a smaller diameter) may have taken a small permanent compression which I am sure one would not see with the Amphicar original springs.



--Larry



From: bkahler [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:47 PM
To: lrsnpark@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-over shocks



Randy,

I think I can answer the first question. If I understand Ken's prior email
the first batch of Maeco shocks sold by the Surplus Center did have springs
on them. It looks like this new batch does not.

I've been meaning to ask the same question about the original amphicar
springs. Can we use the riginal amphicar springs on these Maeco shocks? If
not, then why not and what are the spring requirements?

Brad
 

Ken Chambers

Platinum Subscriber
A few years ago Surplus Center offered the Maeco PK22K1 coil-overs
with springs. A few of us have been running them successfully for
years. Recently the same company is offering just the shocks. The
only modification required was to run a 12mm drill bit through the
7/16" bushings, to enlarge the holes 0.035".

Just measured Maeco springs and original Amphicar front springs:

Meaco PK22K1 spring (mounted on shock and extended)
8-5/8" length
2.10 OD
1.47 ID
.315 spring dia.

Orig. Amphicar front spring (mounted on shock and extended)
10.25 length
2.47 OD
1.74 ID
.364 spring dia.

In my opinion the original Amphicar spring would not be a good
candidate to use on the Maeco shock due to excessive length. With a
spring rate of somewhere around 160 lbs/inch, the extra 1.625" length
would add about 260 lbs. of lift per side. Summit Racing has a
selection of 9 inch coil-over springs in 140 and 180lbs./inch range.

---Ken Chambers


On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Propcar50 wrote:


> Is there (or was there) a coil-over version of the Maeco PK22K1? Can
> I put my Amphi springs on the model being offered now?
>
>
>
> Randy
>
> Blue '67
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SNKR770" <>
> To: rdboggie@comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:56:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
> Eastern
> Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-
> over shocks
>
>
> The surplus center shows that they have 50 shocks in hand. Therefore
> there is enough inventory to do 25 cars which may be enough
> inventory for those who want to go this route. I bought an extra 4
> shock for future use if needed.
>
> How I did the modification can be easily done to any other shock set
> up for coil overs with the right travel distance. It is possible
> that a shock that has the right amount of travel after the top is
> cut off and rethreaded back on might be able to work as well.
>
> The modified Maeco design allows you to drop the new collars on and
> mount the springs to the shocks and car in about a half hour time.
>
> Does anyone know the spring rate for the rear?
>
> The link in your original email takes you to a different shock than
> what I used. Here is the correct link.
> https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.a...8-1343&catname >
> SHOCK ABSORBER
> New, MAECO model PK22K1. Shock only, no coil. Coil-over shock
> absorber assembly
>
> SPECIFICATIONS
>
> • Travel 3-5/8"
> • Retracted Length 9-1/2"
> • Extended Length 13-1/8"
> • Mount 7/16" inside dia.
> • Load 200 lbs./in
> • Size 2'" dia. x 10-3/4"
> • Shpg. 3 lbs.
>
> $18/ pair
>
>
> Spring Info
>
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAL-9-180/
> $86 for the pair
>
>
> Spring Compressor
> 1 03980-1CVH Strut Spring Compressor @ $11.99
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com
>
>
> Shock Spring Retainers
> $????? Depends on where you get done.
>
>
 

LSolheim

Member
I don't know, Ken. With the deformation I've seen on the original Maeco
springs, I would think the Amphi springs might be a good substitute.

--Larry





From: Ken Chambers [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:41 PM
To: lrsnpark@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-over
shocks



A few years ago Surplus Center offered the Maeco PK22K1 coil-overs
with springs. A few of us have been running them successfully for
years. Recently the same company is offering just the shocks. The
only modification required was to run a 12mm drill bit through the
7/16" bushings, to enlarge the holes 0.035".

Just measured Maeco springs and original Amphicar front springs:

Meaco PK22K1 spring (mounted on shock and extended)
8-5/8" length
2.10 OD
1.47 ID
.315 spring dia.

Orig. Amphicar front spring (mounted on shock and extended)
10.25 length
2.47 OD
1.74 ID
.364 spring dia.

In my opinion the original Amphicar spring would not be a good
candidate to use on the Maeco shock due to excessive length. With a
spring rate of somewhere around 160 lbs/inch, the extra 1.625" length
would add about 260 lbs. of lift per side. Summit Racing has a
selection of 9 inch coil-over springs in 140 and 180lbs./inch range.

---Ken Chambers
 

Ken Chambers

Platinum Subscriber
Larry,

What do you mean by deformation? Is the front end sitting lower than
it used to? My car has a very normal height as compared to eight
other Amphicars tightly lined up for a photo shoot in Sacramento
recently. Actually, it's amazing that all the cars sit so similarly.
I've had the Maeco coil-overs on the front for around six years. No
one can compare to the miles you put on but six years of weight
doesn't seem to have had any noticeable affect.

While it appears that the original Amphicar springs will fit the
Maecos, they will have to be compressed quite a bit. Don't know what
that will do to the ride height.

---Ken Chambers


On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:20 PM, LSolheim wrote:


> I don't know, Ken. With the deformation I've seen on the original
> Maeco
> springs, I would think the Amphi springs might be a good substitute.
>
> --Larry
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ken Chambers [mailto:]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:41 PM
> To: lrsnpark@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-over
> shocks
>
>
>
> A few years ago Surplus Center offered the Maeco PK22K1 coil-overs
> with springs. A few of us have been running them successfully for
> years. Recently the same company is offering just the shocks. The
> only modification required was to run a 12mm drill bit through the
> 7/16" bushings, to enlarge the holes 0.035".
>
> Just measured Maeco springs and original Amphicar front springs:
>
> Meaco PK22K1 spring (mounted on shock and extended)
> 8-5/8" length
> 2.10 OD
> 1.47 ID
> .315 spring dia.
>
> Orig. Amphicar front spring (mounted on shock and extended)
> 10.25 length
> 2.47 OD
> 1.74 ID
> .364 spring dia.
>
> In my opinion the original Amphicar spring would not be a good
> candidate to use on the Maeco shock due to excessive length. With a
> spring rate of somewhere around 160 lbs/inch, the extra 1.625" length
> would add about 260 lbs. of lift per side. Summit Racing has a
> selection of 9 inch coil-over springs in 140 and 180lbs./inch range.
>
> ---Ken Chambers
>
>
 

LSolheim

Member
She seems to sit OK and the ride is fine, Ken, but when removed from Amphi
(after many miles) I noted that there was about 3/16" or so play between the
springs and the keepers, meaning they had lost some of their extended
length. This wasn't noticeable when installed as the weight of the car is
enough to compensate. I had originally purchased 2 sets of the Maeco shocks
with springs and was able to verify that set 2 had good fit against the
keepers. --Larry



From: Ken Chambers [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:38 PM
To: lrsnpark@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20568] Re: Front coil-over
shocks



Larry,

What do you mean by deformation? Is the front end sitting lower than
it used to? My car has a very normal height as compared to eight
other Amphicars tightly lined up for a photo shoot in Sacramento
recently. Actually, it's amazing that all the cars sit so similarly.
I've had the Maeco coil-overs on the front for around six years. No
one can compare to the miles you put on but six years of weight
doesn't seem to have had any noticeable affect.

While it appears that the original Amphicar springs will fit the
Maecos, they will have to be compressed quite a bit. Don't know what
that will do to the ride height.

---Ken Chambers

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 
I just ordered a set these shocks from Surplus. Does anyone know if they are a modern gas type shock? They couldnt tell me. Thanks
 

SNKR770

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I did take before and after measurements at the wheel well height for the custom collars that I had built. After the install there was no difference. The car has the same stance.

In response to a few of the other threads.

Is there (or was there) a coil-over version of the Maeco PK22K1?
Not that I am aware of. There use to be. In order to use the PK22K1 shocks you'll need to have a set of custom collars made.

Can I put my Amphi springs on the model being offered now?
I modified the cad file last night to see how tight of a fit it would be. The original Amphicar spring id is fairly close to the od of the shock. The Maeco shock buldges out at the bottom of the shock to hold the orignal collar. While it could be done personally I would not be comfortable with how thin the wall section would get on the collars that would be needed. So I believe the answer is no to being able to use you original springs with the Maeco shock.

Should you want a softer ride for some reason Ken is correct in that Summit Racing has lighter springs as well. The id of the custom collar may need to be adjusted for it.
 
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