door seal update

[glennyrosa]

Saturday, if you recall, I went out to leak test my Home Depot door
seal vs a Gordon seal doubled up. The doubled seal was the same
thickness as my Depot seal. Only difference was the Depot seal was
squishyer (is that a word?). The Depot seal was tight. Not a drip.
The gordon seal had slowed, but not measurably.

I drove from the river straight to Depot and bought another seal and
installed it on the other door after removing the double Gordon seal.
Sunday we spent 2 hours on the river without a drip passing thru the
doors. Absolutely amazing.

I left the Home Depot p/n on my Saturday post. Still have some small
leaks in the engine compartment and large trunk seal leaks which I may
tackle next. Right now I'm very happy with short bilge pump cycles
evry 30 - 40 minutes! Way too cool. It used to be long bilge cycles
every 5 minutes. Those doors really really leaked.

Oregon Glenn who is enjoying more time in the water and less time in
the shop

 

[rlgreen_55]

I use Bilgy's seals that are listed in the classifieds of which are
thicker then stock and what Gordon's offer. They are made of dense
closed cell material of which will not absorb water unlike most. This
is key for a door seal.

Be careful of using too soft of a seal as they may wear out quicker
as they may not fully come back to their original thickness / shape
after a few hundred door openings and closings.

My biggest problem is passengers dragging their feet across the seals
getting in and out. Some years I have had to replace this seal twice
due to big pieces being ripped out from one of these gorillas feet.
Bilgy's seals are tough and durable and will probably take more
punishment then a softer seal.

In Celina I went out by accident for a fairly long time without
latching either door and had very little water enter the bilge. In
any case glad to see you are having fun, that's what it is all about!

Ron Green
Camp Hill, PA.

--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "glennyrosa" <glennyrosa@...>
wrote:
>
> Saturday, if you recall, I went out to leak test my Home Depot door
> seal vs a Gordon seal doubled up. The doubled seal was the same
> thickness as my Depot seal. Only difference was the Depot seal was
> squishyer (is that a word?). The Depot seal was tight. Not a
drip.
> The gordon seal had slowed, but not measurably.
>
> I drove from the river straight to Depot and bought another seal
and
> installed it on the other door after removing the double Gordon
seal.
> Sunday we spent 2 hours on the river without a drip passing thru
the
> doors. Absolutely amazing.
>
> I left the Home Depot p/n on my Saturday post. Still have some
small
> leaks in the engine compartment and large trunk seal leaks which I
may
> tackle next. Right now I'm very happy with short bilge pump cycles
> evry 30 - 40 minutes! Way too cool. It used to be long bilge
cycles
> every 5 minutes. Those doors really really leaked.
>
> Oregon Glenn who is enjoying more time in the water and less time
in
> the shop
>

 

[glennyrosa@comcast.net]

Re: Re: door seal update

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All your concerns are similar to mine. The product that I am using is advertised for auto and marine use and has a 10 year warranty on it. Time will tell. Right now I'm shickled tittless.

Heading to West Marine topick up nav charts to get me aroundall the local rivers, channels, lagoons and tributaries that surround the Portland Metro area. Hundreds of miles of waterways to explore. So little time.

glenn of Oregon

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From: "rlgreen_55" <rgreen@reynoldsconstruction.com>

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I use Bilgy's seals that are listed in the classifieds of which are
thicker then stock and what Gordon's offer. They are made of dense
closed cell material of which will not absorb water unlike most. This
is key for a door seal.

Be careful of using too soft of a seal as they may wear out quicker
as they may not fully come back to their original thickness / shape
after a few hundred door openings and closings.

My biggest problem is passengers dragging their feet across the seals
getting in and out. Some years I have had to replace this seal twice
due to big pieces being ripped out from one of these gorillas feet.
Bilgy's seals are tough and durable and will probably take more
punishment then a softer seal.

In Celina I went out by accident for a fairly long time without
latching either door and had very little water enter the bilge. In
any case glad to see you are having fun, that's what it is all about!

Ron
Green
Camp Hill, PA.

--- In amphicar-lovers@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com, "glennyrosa" <glennyrosa@<wbr>...>
wrote:
>
> Saturday, if you recall, I went out to leak test my Home Depot door
> seal vs a Gordon seal doubled up. The doubled seal was the same
> thickness as my Depot seal. Only difference was the Depot seal was
> squishyer (is that a word?). The Depot seal was tight. Not a
drip.
> The gordon seal had slowed, but not measurably.
>
> I drove from the river straight to Depot and bought another seal
and
> installed it on the other door after removing the double Gordon
seal.
> Sunday we spent 2 hours on the river without a drip passing thru
the
> doors. Absolutely amazing.
>
> I left the Home Depot p/n on my Saturday post. Still have some
small
> leaks in the engine compartment and large tr
unk seal leaks which I
may
> tackle next. Right now I'm very happy with short bilge pump cycles
> evry 30 - 40 minutes! Way too cool. It used to be long bilge
cycles
> every 5 minutes. Those doors really really leaked.
>
> Oregon Glenn who is enjoying more time in the water and less time
in
> the shop
>

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[David Chapman]

Re: Re: door seal update

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> In Celina I went out by accident for a fairly long time without
> latching either door and had very little water enter the bilge.
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<font face="Arial" size="2">On a "perfect" Amphicar the door seals will not leak even when the water lever is not latched. That water lever is more about stopping passengers trying to open the door when in the water. Sure it pulls the door in a little tighter but water pressure does a lot of that anyway. The key is in the design of the seal on the door which is why it is such an odd shape. </font>
<font face="Arial" size="2"></font>
<font face="Arial" size="2">Most door leaks are caused by bad repairs, the door curves front to back and top to bottom so getting the repair just right takes lots of time, skill and effort - it has to be accurate towithin about 3mm when working in the metal.</font>
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<font face="Arial" size="2">David C</font>
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[WB6WSN]

RE: Re: door seal update

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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rlgreen_55
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:47 AM
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: door seal update<span class="419455619-11082006"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#ff0000" size="4"></font></span></font>
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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="419455619-11082006"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">My biggest problem is passengers dragging their feet across the seals
getting in and out. Some years I have had to replace this seal twice
due to big pieces being ripped out from one of these gorillas feet.</font>
</span></font>
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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="419455619-11082006"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">Ron:</font></span></font>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="419455619-11082006"></span></font>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span class="419455619-11082006"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">Could the seal be applied to the door leaf instead of the sill and frame?</font></span></font>
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<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">Ed Price</font>
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">El Cajon, CA USA</font>
<div align="left"><font face="Century Schoolbook" color="#0000ff" size="4">67 Rust Guppy</font>
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[rlgreen_55]

--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "WB6WSN" <wb6wsn@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rlgreen_55
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:47 AM
> To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: door seal update
>
> My biggest problem is passengers dragging their feet across the
seals
> getting in and out. Some years I have had to replace this seal
twice
> due to big pieces being ripped out from one of these gorillas feet.
>
>
> Ron:
>
> Could the seal be applied to the door leaf instead of the sill and
frame?
>
>
> Ed Price
> El Cajon, CA USA
> 67 Rust Guppy

Ed,

The seals are in correctly and my Amphi doesn't leak, in fact after
10 hours in the water over a 3 or 4 day period I'm lucky to have a
gallon of water in the bilge. It's mostly kids or beer laden adults
that seem to do the most damage.

Just back from an Amphi vacation at a huge lake in PA and I'm tired
of work already!!!

Ron Green



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