I deleted the owners database that I created. Sorry to those who did take the time to add your record. I do have a suggestion on the table about creating a "PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE - PUBLICLY EDITABLE" database listing just the basic facts about us and our cars. If there is support for such an idea, I think it would be a great addition to this group. Not as a replacement to Marcs list, but as an addition to the yahoo/escribe club. Chris Skeeles