concours judging

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rbwright123

Guest
One of the fascinations that attracts me to the Amphicar group is your
take it easy attitude. The energy and dedication of the owners make
the car. I stoped attending the GTOAA nationals when the GTO owner
parked next to me pointed out several shortcomings on my 1965
convertible. Wrong valve stems? Never has any other Amphicar owner
pointed out my Amphi's flaws. The gto next to me was later disclosed
as a clone car. B.J. sells many cars that are not perfect. This
year's Amphicar is much better than last year's. As Amphicars recieve
more attention from collectors, B.J.will improve with selections
resulting with more accurate descriptions. This car is restored with a
lot of care. What if they selected the recent E-bay Amphi-joke as
perfect auction candidate? The interest and value of our Amphicars is
almost unbelievable. Lets not get to the point where we become
arrogant with criticism. Marianna and I will see you in Celina soon..
Robert Wright with the wrong colored red wheels.1967 Amphicar.
 
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rbwright123

Guest
One of the fascinations that attracts me to the Amphicar group is your
take it easy attitude. The energy and dedication of the owners make
the car. I stoped attending the GTOAA nationals when the GTO owner
parked next to me pointed out several shortcomings on my 1965
convertible. Wrong valve stems? Never has any other Amphicar owner
pointed out my Amphi's flaws. The gto next to me was later disclosed
as a clone car. B.J. sells many cars that are not perfect. This
year's Amphicar is much better than last year's. As Amphicars recieve
more attention from collectors, B.J.will improve with selections
resulting with more accurate descriptions. This car is restored with a
lot of care. What if they selected the recent E-bay Amphi-joke as
perfect auction candidate? The interest and value of our Amphicars is
almost unbelievable. Lets not get to the point where we become
arrogant with criticism. Marianna and I will see you in Celina soon..
Robert Wright with the wrong colored red wheels.1967 Amphicar.
 
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Amphipoda

Guest
Kind of reminds me of some high fidelity
stereo speakers I ordered back in the `70's
when massive box speakers were all the rage.
They finally arrived, but behind the grill
they didn't have identical components so I
called the manufacturer to complain. The rep
stated they were hand made pairs and matched
by acoustical frequency response hence the
variation in tweeters, sub woofers and mid-
range speakers, even the hardware was different
from screw to bracket... but the boxes looked
pretty much the same. My friends were into
comparing specs and appearances while I was
more into the sound fidelity. To me, if it
functions good, looks good and entertains me
then its all good.

Being a Jag owner and having voluntarily endured
the micro nit-picking of judges I can certainly
appreciate a pristine restoration. So I reckon
having the "correct" OEM Amphi as a reference
point is cool, despite the numerous variations
from the factory, but Darwin help anyone that
approaches my Amphi with a scoring clipboard...
My Amphi will kick on his bilge pump and blind
any judges with stale bilge water and then
slowly back over them with the props on!

Amphipoda
'64 Turquoise
32.912343 N
117.089758 W
Declination 12?34'E
 
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Amphipoda

Guest
Kind of reminds me of some high fidelity
stereo speakers I ordered back in the `70's
when massive box speakers were all the rage.
They finally arrived, but behind the grill
they didn't have identical components so I
called the manufacturer to complain. The rep
stated they were hand made pairs and matched
by acoustical frequency response hence the
variation in tweeters, sub woofers and mid-
range speakers, even the hardware was different
from screw to bracket... but the boxes looked
pretty much the same. My friends were into
comparing specs and appearances while I was
more into the sound fidelity. To me, if it
functions good, looks good and entertains me
then its all good.

Being a Jag owner and having voluntarily endured
the micro nit-picking of judges I can certainly
appreciate a pristine restoration. So I reckon
having the "correct" OEM Amphi as a reference
point is cool, despite the numerous variations
from the factory, but Darwin help anyone that
approaches my Amphi with a scoring clipboard...
My Amphi will kick on his bilge pump and blind
any judges with stale bilge water and then
slowly back over them with the props on!

Amphipoda
'64 Turquoise
32.912343 N
117.089758 W
Declination 12?34'E
 
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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
I see no point in any sort of judging or certifications. I agree
with many of the others that it's a path of a different direction
than typical Amphicar fun. It's good to know what is original and
what is not...but most of us already know that anyway. The Parts
Manual and Maintenance Manual together pretty much document what is
correct and original. The Parts Manual has an exploded view of every
last bolt. What more would you need?
But for the certifications....I would hate for Dieter Harre to one
day decide to sell his car, and someone come in with a "checklist"
and rate his car as a 30 out of 100, then offer him $8,000 for it.
Or worse, if Dieter couldn't, and his wife had to sell it...she might
be talked in to taking $8,000 because it scored a 30 out of 100.
Reality is that Dieter's car is one of the best Amphicars out there -
you could eat out of his bilge! Sure, he has different style non-
original bits and pieces, but it is an un-modified, beautifully
restored Amphicar that I sure wouldn't be ashamed to drive and swim!

The IAOC bylaws state the clubs Purpose as follows:
"The purpose of the club is to encourage the preservation, ownership
and operation of the amphibious vehicle known as the Amphicar."
Judging does not go with this purpose. "Documenting" originality
might well fall under the preservation purpose...but concours type
judging goes against the "ownership and operation" portion of the
bylaws.

Just my opinion....

60+ degrees in Northern Kentucky today....gotta love that!
Marc Schlemmer.
 
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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
I see no point in any sort of judging or certifications. I agree
with many of the others that it's a path of a different direction
than typical Amphicar fun. It's good to know what is original and
what is not...but most of us already know that anyway. The Parts
Manual and Maintenance Manual together pretty much document what is
correct and original. The Parts Manual has an exploded view of every
last bolt. What more would you need?
But for the certifications....I would hate for Dieter Harre to one
day decide to sell his car, and someone come in with a "checklist"
and rate his car as a 30 out of 100, then offer him $8,000 for it.
Or worse, if Dieter couldn't, and his wife had to sell it...she might
be talked in to taking $8,000 because it scored a 30 out of 100.
Reality is that Dieter's car is one of the best Amphicars out there -
you could eat out of his bilge! Sure, he has different style non-
original bits and pieces, but it is an un-modified, beautifully
restored Amphicar that I sure wouldn't be ashamed to drive and swim!

The IAOC bylaws state the clubs Purpose as follows:
"The purpose of the club is to encourage the preservation, ownership
and operation of the amphibious vehicle known as the Amphicar."
Judging does not go with this purpose. "Documenting" originality
might well fall under the preservation purpose...but concours type
judging goes against the "ownership and operation" portion of the
bylaws.

Just my opinion....

60+ degrees in Northern Kentucky today....gotta love that!
Marc Schlemmer.
 

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