Clunking

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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font COLOR="#0080ff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold" LANG="0">Possibly, It's the "Three B's"



empty Booze Bottle in the Bildge?



Anyway, Have a "Happy New Year"</font>
 
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<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font COLOR="#0080ff" SIZE="2" PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial Rounded MT Bold" LANG="0">Randy,



For the past 35 years I have been drinking "Black Russians" (Kahlua & Vodka) and probably enough to float all three of my Amphis.



Back in the early 70's Kahlua came out with a new drink called "KAHLUA SPLASH."



It was Kahlua and soda. Since I had painted my Amphi "Yellow," almost like the label on the bottle and the Amphi made a very large Splash on entering the water I thought it would make a great commercial for the Kahlua Distributor.



As luck would have it, at a business luncheon one afternoon I ran into one of the Kahlua salesmen and mentioned my idea. He thought it was great and went out to his vehicle and brought me a whole bunch of promotional items and said he would contact me soon.



Well, as luck would have it, I flipped the Amphi and flattened the little car/boat from the dashboard up so it never happened. Would have been a real neat commercial.



Frank & Josie in CT</font>
 
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I get a clunk from the rear when I let the clutch out. The axle is new. What can be other causes of this? What checks can I do to determine the cause?

thanks,
Randy
blue '67
Gaithersburg, MD
 
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I checked, no such luck. But talking about booze, I would think that "Cold Duck" would be the official Amphi bubbly. I haven't come up with a good mixed drink, though. Definitely, nothing "on the rocks". Maybe some type of "float".

Still need help on my cluck.

thanks.

<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
<font face="arial,helvetica"><font lang="0" face="Arial Rounded MT Bold" color="#0080ff" size="2" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">Possibly, It's the "Three B's"

empty Booze Bottle in the Bildge?

Anyway, Have a "Happy New Year"</font>

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--- In ". Maybe some type of "float".
>
> Still need help on my cluck.
>
> thanks.
>
> OHHH! I'ts a Cluck!! You definatly have a sick duck!!Tom n
Cindy "BLUGILL" with NO Cluck!!
 
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Larry & Nancy Solheim

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A bit more information would be helpful. Does it
happen every time? More or less w/ a "hard" clutch
engagement? Worse if you back up, stop, & then go
forward?

1st though would be a U-joint, but brake shoes that
"stick" then break-free as power is applied is also a
possibility. Or even a bad axle bearing, but you
would most likely hear noise if you jack up the rear
and spin the tire by hand. While you have the rear
off the ground, also hold the tire at 9 & 3 o'clock &
push/pull to check the attachment at the pinchbolt
swing arm attachment.

Good luck,
--Larry




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Bill Connelly

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Randy,

I used to have a bit of a "clunk" in the rear. It was a meaty low-frequency
sound that one sort of felt in my butt as well as heard, like when my wife
hollers to me from upstairs to take out the trash. At first I heard it only
occasionally when starting off from a dead stop, or while braking and
turning right, but gradually I heard it more often...like sometimes during
gear changes on a hill. In my case it seems to have come from the swing arm
where it fits over the stub axle.

According to East Coast Amphicar's Billy Syx (see
http://www.amphicar.net/eca ) it is very common for these round swing arm
"eyes" that slip over the stub axle to oval out over time, especially when
the stub axles had been mounted without being properly spring loaded,
something frequently overlooked during previous work on the car. (Billy says
most of the Amphis that come in to him for restoration have stub axles that
are not properly "sprung"), or if the pinch bolt that holds the swing arm to
the stub axle is loose or stretched (the original bolts are fairly soft
steel). In case it's just a stretched or broken pinch bolt, Billy has
posted a quick fix for this common issue in the Amphicar.net "Parts Tips"
section at http://amphicar.net/partsinfo.htm . Here's the text:

FullName: Billy Syx (East Coast Amphicar)
Email: eca@amphicar.net
Website: http://www.galloweb.com/~amphicar
Original_Amphicar_Part_Name: Pinch bolt for rear axle oscillating arm
Original_Amphicar_Part_Model_or_Type: Hexagon bolt M 10 x 75 S DIN 931 - 10K
Original_Amphicar_Part_Number: 1.309 15.00 (Amphicar Parts Catalog, 4/1 --
Item 11)
Replacement_Part_Name: Any manufacturer
Replacement_Part_Model_or_Type: 2 1/2 x 3/8" SAE (Minimum Grade 5, but the
higher the grade the better)
Replacement_Part_Number: Common U.S. hardware
Manufacturer_or_Source: Any decent U.S. hardware store
Actually_used_the_part?: I have actually used this part
Price: $3
Price_from_Gordon: n/a
Date: October 26, 1999
Modifications_Needed_or_Other_Comments
Also purchase matching washers (2 per bolt) and nut. The original Amphicar
bolt was a much softer steel with a very coarse thread. With this new
stronger grade steel replacement and its finer (SAE) thread, it may be
possible with a little "heave-ho" to tighten down a loose oscillating arm
onto the stub axle, thereby vastly improving handling and safety, to say
nothing of avoiding that $700 bite for a new oscillating arm assembly. The
old original soft-steel bolts will usually snap if one tightens them down
hard. Use of a thread locking compound like Loctite on the nut or
double-nutting (tightening a second nut against the first) is advised.

Of course, even if the tip above seems to solve your immediate issue, a
thorough looksee at the whole wheel and suspension assemblies might be well
advised while you're down there anyhow. It being the middle of winter and
all, it's not like you really need just a "quick fix" to get you through to
the end of the sailing season. There may be other issues causing or
contributing to the clunk such as badly worn drive axle joints, bearings,
etc., just as Larry points out below. Better to tinker with these in
January than over a gorgeous cruisin' weekend in June, right?

~Bilgey~


----- Original Message -----
From: Larry & Nancy Solheim
To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Clunking


A bit more information would be helpful. Does it
happen every time? More or less w/ a "hard" clutch
engagement? Worse if you back up, stop, & then go
forward?

1st though would be a U-joint, but brake shoes that
"stick" then break-free as power is applied is also a
possibility. Or even a bad axle bearing, but you
would most likely hear noise if you jack up the rear
and spin the tire by hand. While you have the rear
off the ground, also hold the tire at 9 & 3 o'clock &
push/pull to check the attachment at the pinchbolt
swing arm attachment.

Good luck,
--Larry




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Thanks for all the responses....I'll start checking things out.

Randy

<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------

>
> Randy,
>
> I used to have a bit of a "clunk" in the rear. It was a meaty low-frequency
> sound that one sort of felt in my butt as well as heard, like when my wife
> hollers to me from upstairs to take out the trash. At first I heard it only
> occasionally when starting off from a dead stop, or while braking and
> turning right, but gradually I heard it more often...like sometimes during
> gear changes on a hill. In my case it seems to have come from the swing arm
> where it fits over the stub axle.
>
> According to East Coast Amphicar's Billy Syx (see
> http://www.amphicar.net/eca ) it is very common for these round swing arm
> "eyes" that slip over the stub axle to oval out over time, especially when
> the stub axles had been mounted without being properly spring loaded,
> something frequently overlooked during previous work on the car. (Billy says
> most of the Amphis that come in to him for restoration have stub axles that
> are not properly "sprung"), or if the pinch bolt that holds the swing arm to
> the stub axle is loose or stretched (the original bolts are fairly soft
> steel). In case it's just a stretched or broken pinch bolt, Billy has
> posted a quick fix for this common issue in the Amphicar.net "Parts Tips"
> section at http://amphicar.net/partsinfo.htm . Here's the text:
>
> FullName: Billy Syx (East Coast Amphicar)
> Email: eca@amphicar.net
> Website: http://www.galloweb.com/~amphicar
> Original_Amphicar_Part_Name: Pinch bolt for rear axle oscillating arm
> Original_Amphicar_Part_Model_or_Type: Hexagon bolt M 10 x 75 S DIN 931 - 10K
> Original_Amphicar_Part_Number: 1.309 15.00 (Amphicar Parts Catalog, 4/1 --
> Item 11)
> Replacement_Part_Name: Any manufacturer
> Replacement_Part_Model_or_Type: 2 1/2 x 3/8" SAE (Minimum Grade 5, but the
> higher the grade the better)
> Replacement_Part_Number: Common U.S. hardware
> Manufacturer_or_Source: Any decent U.S. hardware store
> Actually_used_the_part?: I have actually used this part
> Price: $3
> Price_from_Gordon: n/a
> Date: October 26, 1999
> Modifications_Needed_or_Other_Comments
> Also purchase matching washers (2 per bolt) and nut. The original Amphicar
> bolt was a much softer steel with a very coarse thread. With this new
> stronger grade steel replacement and its finer (SAE) thread, it may be
> possible with a little "heave-ho" to tighten down a loose oscillating arm
> onto the stub axle, thereby vastly improving handling and safety, to say
> nothing of avoiding that $700 bite for a new oscillating arm assembly. The
> old original soft-steel bolts will usually snap if one tightens them down
> hard. Use of a thread locking compound like Loctite on the nut or
> double-nutting (tightening a second nut against the first) is advised.
>
> Of course, even if the tip above seems to solve your immediate issue, a
> thorough looksee at the whole wheel and suspension assemblies might be well
> advised while you're down there anyhow. It being the middle of winter and
> all, it's not like you really need just a "quick fix" to get you through to
> the end of the sailing season. There may be other issues causing or
> contributing to the clunk such as badly worn drive axle joints, bearings,
> etc., just as Larry points out below. Better to tinker with these in
> January than over a gorgeous cruisin' weekend in June, right?
>
> ~Bilgey~
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry & Nancy Solheim
> To: amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] Clunking
>
>
> A bit more information would be helpful. Does it
> happen every time? More or less w/ a "hard" clutch
> engagement? Worse if you back up, stop, & then go
> forward?
>
> 1st though would be a U-joint, but brake shoes that
> "stick" then break-free as power is applied is also a
> possibility. Or even a bad axle bearing, but you
> would most likely hear noise if you jack up the rear
> and spin the tire by hand. While you have the rear
> off the ground, also hold the tire at 9 & 3 o'clock &
> push/pull to check the attachment at the pinchbolt
> swing arm attachment.
>
> Good luck,
> --Larry
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.hagerty.com
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I only notice it when I take off, but I'll have to pay more attention with the other conditions. I'm doing the swing arm/pinch bolt test tonight.
From the feedback I've received, it could be:
-swing arm/pinch bolts worn or loose
-u-joints
-loose backing plate
-sticking brakes
-mushy engine mounts causing the axle to hit the housing.

thanks,
Randy

<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------

>
> A bit more information would be helpful. Does it
> happen every time? More or less w/ a "hard" clutch
> engagement? Worse if you back up, stop, & then go
> forward?
>
> 1st though would be a U-joint, but brake shoes that
> "stick" then break-free as power is applied is also a
> possibility. Or even a bad axle bearing, but you
> would most likely hear noise if you jack up the rear
> and spin the tire by hand. While you have the rear
> off the ground, also hold the tire at 9 & 3 o'clock &
> push/pull to check the attachment at the pinchbolt
> swing arm attachment.
>
> Good luck,
> --Larry
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
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>
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Archives:
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> http://www.growerflower.com/default.asp?id=41762
>
> When insuring your Amphicar do not settle for anything less than the very best
> coverage available. Visit Hagerty Collector Car Insurance today at
> http://www.hagerty.com
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
>
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