Clocks

[Canadian four amphs]

I now have a cheap clock replacement For Amphicars.
send me your old one and I put a relacement. 1.5 vlt clock with a grey face like original.in your housing.
GORD.

 

[Tedredamphi]

Gord,
Will these clocks work on both Positive Ground and Negative Ground?
Ted

 

[Tedredamphi]

I didn't read the fine print. I guess 1.5V means that the clock runs on batteries!!!:007:
Ted

 

[amphi_sc]

I did that 3 or 4 years ago. I just picked up a common hobby clock from Hobby Lobby, did a little work on amphic case removing the guts but saving the original clock face and glass, wired the battery circuit (to a radio shack battery holder) to the outside of the rear case to make it easier to change. Used a dremmel tool to notch the driveshaft for the hands so the original amphi clock face setting knob will engage to set the time. I shortened the hands a little bit to look more original but used white paint instead of off white, but looks acceptable to me. I get about a year or so out of each battery, and with enough patience, can change the battery from reaching in from the trunk toward the dash to the back of the clock. It has worked good for me for while.

Al (aboat2)

 

[inaintheboro]

Good question. Ina
On Apr 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Tedredamphi wrote:

> Gord,
> Will these clocks work on both Positive Ground and Negative Ground?
> Ted
>
>

 

[Craig_Parada]

Cheap household single-cell clocks are not made for automobile use (vibration temp changes, etc.) and will not last - even in seldom-used collector cars. The original clocks are very simple and robust (if not fabulously accurate) units. If the dials aren't destroyed, they can be restored. They usually just take some cleaning and lubrication. I did mine; it was very easy, took an evening or so, and it runs fine. For instructions, check out the BMW site "2002tii Clock Repair" at BMW 2002tii Clock Repair. I posted more photos of my clock in the Gallery.
There are also pro instrument shops that do fine (expensive) work. If restoration isn't possible, there are VDO Quartz mechanisms available here and there that are a lot closer to period correct.
Of course, we don't actually need car clocks, so another solution would be to use that spot for a tachometer, and leave the clock for a day when doing it right is worth the cost.
Sorry to be cranky, but I've seen too many old machines butchered. Maybe I too much time and not enough sense, but I can't destroy an old MotoMeter.

Craig (1964 helblau "Ratty")

 

[Canadian four amphs]

Yes Ina they will work on pos or neg ground as Al saw, they are self contained.
some good tips there, they will have external batterys and do have a light for night driving.
Was talking with Steve last night and the fellow he had making them, he just found again too,so may be another source again too.
I am now working on U joints for the 24mm drive axles.
and Floor Rubber at a better price...Hold on if you can
GORD.

 

[Midwest Amphicar]

Glad to see your ticker is ticking correctly. Post a pic of clock redo. Rubber mats? Why? My cars are so dry everyone uses nice shag carpet. Groovy Baby.

 

[Craig_Parada]

The old MotoMeter clocks are very simple and robust (if not fabulously accurate) units. Dirty points and general dust are the usual suspects when they stop. If their dials aren't destroyed, they can be restored with some cleaning and lubrication. For instructions, check out the BMW site "2002tii Clock Repair" BMW 2002tii Clock Repair I did mine over a couple of evenings and it runs fine. (see Gallary photos)

If restoration isn't possible, there are automotive quartz mechanisms available that are a lot closer to period correct, but I'd be tempted to use that spot for an old VDO or Smiths tachometer...

Craig (1964 helblau "Ratty")

 

[SNOWBIRD]

Whom,, said my ticker was ok.
Procedure failed!
I have big round burn marks where the paddles were placed,
other than getting tired fast I feel no ill efects.
still do 2 lengths of our hotels big pool underwater.
Carpet, what a place to hide tons of sand.
when I see how much dirt ang sand comes in on a rubber floor I would never want SHAG carpet!
GORD S
I have post pics before but can not figure it out on Comp. now.
Cant even change my Profile and get rid of FL. info for Summer!

 

[flyboy]

When I converted to negative ground and alternator my clock runs fast. Any
ideas

Jim Hall

64 red



From: Craig Parada [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:00 PM
To: jhall11@cfl.rr.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks



The old MotoMeter clocks are very simple and robust (if not fabulously
accurate) units. Dirty points and general dust are the usual suspects when
they stop. If their dials aren't destroyed, they can be restored with some
cleaning and lubrication. For instructions, check out the BMW site "2002tii
Clock Repair" BMW <http://www.marsmann.com/2002tii/clock/> 2002tii Clock
Repair I did mine over a couple of evenings and it runs fine. (see Gallary
photos)

If restoration isn't possible, there are automotive quartz mechanisms
available that are a lot closer to period correct, but I'd be tempted to use
that spot for an old VDO or Smiths tachometer...

Craig (1964 helblau "Ratty")

 

[SNOWBIRD]

There is a setting to change the speed of the clock...POS or Neg speed... but you have to get into back(Take it apart) to do it.

I can sell just the decals for face of clock if you want to reface your original one yourself..
GORD>

 

[gzink]

Who has the clock faces or decals? I am interested but couldn't tell if it's Gord that has them ore Snowbird. Let me know who/how to contact directly.
Greg Z. (Michigan)

--- On Wed, 5/12/10, SNOWBIRD <> wrote:


From: SNOWBIRD <>
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks
To: g_zink_us@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 5:44 PM







There is a setting to change the speed of the clock...POS or Neg speed... but you have to get into back(Take it apart) to do it.

I can sell just the decals for face of clock if you want to reface your original one yourself..
GORD>

 

[inaintheboro]

Gord is Snowbird. Snowbird is Gord (in the winter that is). Ina
On May 12, 2010, at 3:38 PM, gzink wrote:

> Who has the clock faces or decals? I am interested but couldn't tell
> if it's Gord that has them ore Snowbird. Let me know who/how to
> contact directly.
> Greg Z. (Michigan)
>
> --- On Wed, 5/12/10, SNOWBIRD <> wrote:
>
>
> From: SNOWBIRD <>
> Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks
> To: g_zink_us@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 5:44 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There is a setting to change the speed of the clock...POS or Neg
> speed... but you have to get into back(Take it apart) to do it.
>
> I can sell just the decals for face of clock if you want to reface
> your original one yourself..
> GORD>
>
>

 

[SNOWBIRD]

A few weeks ago I got knocked of the list and could not reply. when I went back in and reset, it reverted to my Florida comp, call signs and I do not know how to get it back to Canadian Four Amphs:032:
Gord S.
Orillia Ont.
(gord@amphicar.ca)

(www.amphicar.ca)

 

[Craig_Parada]

Jim,

When you went to negative ground, you may have made other changes that
improved the flow of electrons (better ground connection, new battery, an
alternator...). With better current flow, the clock will "rewind" better and
more often. There's a little adjustment screw opening on the back of the
clock - sometimes taped over to keep dust out. Very small changes can make a
big difference.

Craig

1964 (helblau "Ratty")



_____

From: flyboy [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:10 PM
To: craig.parada@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks



When I converted to negative ground and alternator my clock runs fast. Any
ideas

Jim Hall

64 red



From: Craig Parada [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:00 PM
To: jhall11@cfl.rr.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks



The old MotoMeter clocks are very simple and robust (if not fabulously
accurate) units. Dirty points and general dust are the usual suspects when
they stop. If their dials aren't destroyed, they can be restored with some
cleaning and lubrication. For instructions, check out the BMW site "2002tii
Clock Repair" BMW <http://www.marsmann.com/2002tii/clock/
<http://www.marsmann.com/2002tii/clock/%3e> > 2002tii Clock
Repair I did mine over a couple of evenings and it runs fine. (see Gallary
photos)

If restoration isn't possible, there are automotive quartz mechanisms
available that are a lot closer to period correct, but I'd be tempted to use
that spot for an old VDO or Smiths tachometer...

Craig (1964 helblau "Ratty")

 

[flyboy]

Thanks, I'm on it.



From: Craig Parada [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:00 PM
To: jhall11@cfl.rr.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks



Jim,

When you went to negative ground, you may have made other changes that
improved the flow of electrons (better ground connection, new battery, an
alternator...). With better current flow, the clock will "rewind" better and
more often. There's a little adjustment screw opening on the back of the
clock - sometimes taped over to keep dust out. Very small changes can make a
big difference.

Craig

1964 (helblau "Ratty")



_____

From: flyboy [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:10 PM
To: craig.parada@sbcglobal.net
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks



When I converted to negative ground and alternator my clock runs fast. Any
ideas

Jim Hall

64 red



From: Craig Parada [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:00 PM
To: jhall11@cfl.rr.com
Subject: RE: [General Amphicar Discussion-t-20745] Re: Clocks



The old MotoMeter clocks are very simple and robust (if not fabulously
accurate) units. Dirty points and general dust are the usual suspects when
they stop. If their dials aren't destroyed, they can be restored with some
cleaning and lubrication. For instructions, check out the BMW site "2002tii
Clock Repair" BMW <http://www.marsmann.com/2002tii/clock/
<http://www.marsmann.com/2002tii/clock/%3e
<http://www.marsmann.com/2002tii/clock/%3e%3e> > > 2002tii Clock
Repair I did mine over a couple of evenings and it runs fine. (see Gallary
photos)

If restoration isn't possible, there are automotive quartz mechanisms
available that are a lot closer to period correct, but I'd be tempted to use
that spot for an old VDO or Smiths tachometer...

Craig (1964 helblau "Ratty")