Brakes Brakes and more Brakes

[Michael Echemann]

As the bilgemaster said so well not long ago:

"brakes ain't really
where you want to skimp or "make do" if you don't have to, right?

I would suggest you either send your master cylinder out and get it
professionally overhauled or better yet drop a few well spent bucks with
Gordon and buy the right one. I've never understood why some will fit a
similar looking yet incorrect master cylinder into these vehicles then cut
the rod and go down the road. If nothing else buy Gordons rebuild kit.

Have you seen some of those cheaply built VW cylinders from South America.
I'm to sure I'd install one in a VW.

Mike



----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Israel" <amphicar770@yahoo.com>
To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] brake master rebuild parts


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> Jim Davis <thedavismaninny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to rebuild the brake master cylinder. Past postings don't
> find any part numbers or references. Is the VW transporter a viable
> alternative? Is there a Wagner part number for the parts? Any advice?
> Butlers Dad
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[DrNoose]

Why is it an assumption that the new cylinders are "cheaply made"? Because they
are made in South America? Because they do
not cost a small fortune? I opened up the one I purchased, and it looked to be
equal in quality to any other master cylinder I have
seen. There also seems to be a issue with cutting off the end of the brake push
rod, and I do not understand that either. I kept the
piece, and if someday I decide to go back with stock amphi (or what passes for
it nowadays), it is no big deal to weld it back on. It will
then function no different than any other one. I doubt very much that the VW
owners have a death wish, and that they settle for
substandard parts.

The car has stopped just fine for a year now. Personally, having dealt with a
bunch of rebuilt masters over the years, I will take a new
one any day of the week. And I do NOT consider it "skimping" or "making do"
(both of which are are terms meant to demean). I
consider it being rational, and coming up with the best solution (short of a
time machine trip back to 1964).

Venting finished. Thanks for reading. I promise not to bring it up again.

Dan..catching up with a lot of reading.
'64 Amphi...Das Boot

--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Echemann" <echemike@s...>
wrote:
> As the bilgemaster said so well not long ago:
>
> "brakes ain't really
> where you want to skimp or "make do" if you don't have to, right?
>
> I would suggest you either send your master cylinder out and get it
> professionally overhauled or better yet drop a few well spent bucks with
> Gordon and buy the right one. I've never understood why some will fit a
> similar looking yet incorrect master cylinder into these vehicles then cut
> the rod and go down the road. If nothing else buy Gordons rebuild kit.
>
> Have you seen some of those cheaply built VW cylinders from South America.
> I'm to sure I'd install one in a VW.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Israel" <amphicar770@y...>
> To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] brake master rebuild parts
>
>
> > Click here for more on the topic than you ever wanted to know!
> >
> http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/search.html?query=master+cylinder
> >
> >
> > Jim Davis <thedavismaninny@y...> wrote:
> > I'm looking to rebuild the brake master cylinder. Past postings don't
> > find any part numbers or references. Is the VW transporter a viable
> > alternative? Is there a Wagner part number for the parts? Any advice?
> > Butlers Dad
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Michael Echemann]

Re: Re: Brakes Brakes and more Brakes

Dan:
I don't know of any Amphi owners who are out to demean anyone. The best
thing about this club is the people and everyone's willingness to help each
other. I certainly wouldn't and I'm sure Bilgy didn't have that in mind
either.

Considering all the tips and exchanges which are passed along on this list I
believe brakes should be open for discussion. Seeing the fabulous job you
did on your car it's obvious your pretty gifted but others may not be. This
is where keeping the orig. master cylinder may be a good idea.
Cutting/rewelding etc. the rod which provides the action to the master
cylinder could potentially be a real problem. If not precise and the rod
drops out of it's groove trouble is coming. I haven't tried this so I'm no
expert but it's worth thinking about.

I'm all for saving a few bucks but for Me Personally this would not be the
place. It's a good item for discussion though and everyone can make their
own call.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "DrNoose" <dkgibson3@comcast.net>
To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: [amphicar-lovers] Re: Brakes Brakes and more Brakes


> Why is it an assumption that the new cylinders are "cheaply made"?
Because they are made in South America? Because they do
> not cost a small fortune? I opened up the one I purchased, and it looked
to be equal in quality to any other master cylinder I have
> seen. There also seems to be a issue with cutting off the end of the brake
push rod, and I do not understand that either. I kept the
> piece, and if someday I decide to go back with stock amphi (or what passes
for it nowadays), it is no big deal to weld it back on. It will
> then function no different than any other one. I doubt very much that the
VW owners have a death wish, and that they settle for
> substandard parts.
>
> The car has stopped just fine for a year now. Personally, having dealt
with a bunch of rebuilt masters over the years, I will take a new
> one any day of the week. And I do NOT consider it "skimping" or "making
do" (both of which are are terms meant to demean). I
> consider it being rational, and coming up with the best solution (short of
a time machine trip back to 1964).
>
> Venting finished. Thanks for reading. I promise not to bring it up again.
>
> Dan..catching up with a lot of reading.
> '64 Amphi...Das Boot
>
> --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Echemann" <echemike@s...>
wrote:
> > As the bilgemaster said so well not long ago:
> >
> > "brakes ain't really
> > where you want to skimp or "make do" if you don't have to, right?
> >
> > I would suggest you either send your master cylinder out and get it
> > professionally overhauled or better yet drop a few well spent bucks with
> > Gordon and buy the right one. I've never understood why some will fit a
> > similar looking yet incorrect master cylinder into these vehicles then
cut
> > the rod and go down the road. If nothing else buy Gordons rebuild kit.
> >
> > Have you seen some of those cheaply built VW cylinders from South
America.
> > I'm to sure I'd install one in a VW.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Israel" <amphicar770@y...>
> > To: <amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amphicar-lovers] brake master rebuild parts
> >
> >
> > > Click here for more on the topic than you ever wanted to know!
> > >
> >
http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/search.html?query=master+cylinder
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Davis <thedavismaninny@y...> wrote:
> > > I'm looking to rebuild the brake master cylinder. Past postings don't
> > > find any part numbers or references. Is the VW transporter a viable
> > > alternative? Is there a Wagner part number for the parts? Any advice?
> > > Butlers Dad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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