Alternator swap

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gtpeterp

Guest
I purchased the alternator today to do a negative ground conversion.
It seems to fit just fine, but I have a few questions:

Does anybody do the gauge conversion commercially? It seems like
something I can probably do myself, but if its not ludicrously
expensive, id rather have someone who has done a couple look at it.

Can anyone reccomend an existing mounting bracket, vs me fabbing my
own? Im gonna put some waterjet shop owners kids through college at
this rate.

Also a wierd question, does anyone have the list archives in a format
I can get to? The search is pretty useless and I hate to ask questions
that have more than likely been beaten into the ground...
 
J

John Friese

Guest
Hello,

If you use the Triumph Spitfire alternator you can get the exact mounts
for this engine from a junk yard, for a few bucks, or get new mounts
from the Victoria British catalog. This alternator is a good thing
because it was actually made for this block and looks factory correct
on the engine. The other nice thing is that it uses the same
connectors on the back and you simply plug the generator leads onto the
alternator. You can probably get a used one from a junk yard but I
bought a refurbished (looks new) one from a Kragen auto parts store.
It is an Autolite model 14029 and cost about $115 since you don't have
a core to give back. This was the only auto parts store I found that
could get this alternator.

I've done the negative ground conversions and calibrations for several
years now and do them for Hugh also. I'm currently charging $75 for
the conversion and calibration to a new sending unit that I bought from
Gordon's. This price also includes the return shipping. Both of my
Amphicars have been converted to negative ground.

John Friese
67 White
67 Red

jfriese(at)mindspring.com

Cell phone 805-570-4778 (best time in the afternoon or evening)



--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "gtpeterp" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
>
> I purchased the alternator today to do a negative ground conversion.
> It seems to fit just fine, but I have a few questions:
>
> Does anybody do the gauge conversion commercially? It seems like
> something I can probably do myself, but if its not ludicrously
> expensive, id rather have someone who has done a couple look at it.
>
> Can anyone reccomend an existing mounting bracket, vs me fabbing my
> own? Im gonna put some waterjet shop owners kids through college at
> this rate.
>
> Also a wierd question, does anyone have the list archives in a format
> I can get to? The search is pretty useless and I hate to ask questions
> that have more than likely been beaten into the ground...
>
 
J

John Friese

Guest
Hello Again,

Once more thing, the Spitfire alternator operates the idiot light on
the dash correctly, unlike the Delco, one wire system.

The wiring conversion at the old regulator couldn't be much simpler.
You shuffle a few leads around and attach two of the leads together.
It'makes for a really clean installation. I have some photos of my
cars if you'd like to see those details. Email me if you want to see
them. jfriese(at)mindspring.com

John Friese



--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "gtpeterp" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
>
> I purchased the alternator today to do a negative ground conversion.
> It seems to fit just fine, but I have a few questions:
>
> Does anybody do the gauge conversion commercially? It seems like
> something I can probably do myself, but if its not ludicrously
> expensive, id rather have someone who has done a couple look at it.
>
> Can anyone reccomend an existing mounting bracket, vs me fabbing my
> own? Im gonna put some waterjet shop owners kids through college at
> this rate.
>
> Also a wierd question, does anyone have the list archives in a format
> I can get to? The search is pretty useless and I hate to ask questions
> that have more than likely been beaten into the ground...
>
 
G

gtpeterp

Guest
Cool.

I actually bought the GM alternator, based on the theory that it was
not manufactured by Lucas Our Dark Lord, and thus probably marginally
superior. Also, many amps. :)

However, it looks like it will be fairly straigtforward to mount up,
so im not terribly worried on that count.

I'll get in touch with you as I get closer to a point where I need the
gas gauge. I still havent decided wether to go with EFI on the car
yet, so ive got a while. I just bought the alternator to maintain the
illusion of forward progress. :)

--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "John Friese" <jfriese@m...>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> If you use the Triumph Spitfire alternator you can get the exact mounts
> for this engine from a junk yard, for a few bucks, or get new mounts
> from the Victoria British catalog. This alternator is a good thing
> because it was actually made for this block and looks factory correct
> on the engine. The other nice thing is that it uses the same
> connectors on the back and you simply plug the generator leads onto the
> alternator. You can probably get a used one from a junk yard but I
> bought a refurbished (looks new) one from a Kragen auto parts store.
> It is an Autolite model 14029 and cost about $115 since you don't have
> a core to give back. This was the only auto parts store I found that
> could get this alternator.
>
> I've done the negative ground conversions and calibrations for several
> years now and do them for Hugh also. I'm currently charging $75 for
> the conversion and calibration to a new sending unit that I bought from
> Gordon's. This price also includes the return shipping. Both of my
> Amphicars have been converted to negative ground.
>
> John Friese
> 67 White
> 67 Red
>
> jfriese(at)mindspring.com
>
> Cell phone 805-570-4778 (best time in the afternoon or evening)
>
>
>
> --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "gtpeterp" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> >
> > I purchased the alternator today to do a negative ground conversion.
> > It seems to fit just fine, but I have a few questions:
> >
> > Does anybody do the gauge conversion commercially? It seems like
> > something I can probably do myself, but if its not ludicrously
> > expensive, id rather have someone who has done a couple look at it.
> >
> > Can anyone reccomend an existing mounting bracket, vs me fabbing my
> > own? Im gonna put some waterjet shop owners kids through college at
> > this rate.
> >
> > Also a wierd question, does anyone have the list archives in a format
> > I can get to? The search is pretty useless and I hate to ask questions
> > that have more than likely been beaten into the ground...
> >
>
 
J

John Friese

Guest
Hi,

You're right, the Triumph alternator is a Lucas made, 35 amp. unit
but it sure looks correct and works fine for me. I've had them on my
cars for 3 years now.

John




--- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "gtpeterp" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> I actually bought the GM alternator, based on the theory that it was
> not manufactured by Lucas Our Dark Lord, and thus probably
marginally
> superior. Also, many amps. :)
>
> However, it looks like it will be fairly straigtforward to mount up,
> so im not terribly worried on that count.
>
> I'll get in touch with you as I get closer to a point where I need
the
> gas gauge. I still havent decided wether to go with EFI on the car
> yet, so ive got a while. I just bought the alternator to maintain
the
> illusion of forward progress. :)
>
> --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "John Friese" <jfriese@m...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > If you use the Triumph Spitfire alternator you can get the exact
mounts
> > for this engine from a junk yard, for a few bucks, or get new
mounts
> > from the Victoria British catalog. This alternator is a good
thing
> > because it was actually made for this block and looks factory
correct
> > on the engine. The other nice thing is that it uses the same
> > connectors on the back and you simply plug the generator leads
onto the
> > alternator. You can probably get a used one from a junk yard but
I
> > bought a refurbished (looks new) one from a Kragen auto parts
store.
> > It is an Autolite model 14029 and cost about $115 since you don't
have
> > a core to give back. This was the only auto parts store I found
that
> > could get this alternator.
> >
> > I've done the negative ground conversions and calibrations for
several
> > years now and do them for Hugh also. I'm currently charging $75
for
> > the conversion and calibration to a new sending unit that I
bought from
> > Gordon's. This price also includes the return shipping. Both
of my
> > Amphicars have been converted to negative ground.
> >
> > John Friese
> > 67 White
> > 67 Red
> >
> > jfriese(at)mindspring.com
> >
> > Cell phone 805-570-4778 (best time in the afternoon or evening)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In amphicar-lovers@yahoogroups.com, "gtpeterp" <yahoo@p...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I purchased the alternator today to do a negative ground
conversion.
> > > It seems to fit just fine, but I have a few questions:
> > >
> > > Does anybody do the gauge conversion commercially? It seems like
> > > something I can probably do myself, but if its not ludicrously
> > > expensive, id rather have someone who has done a couple look at
it.
> > >
> > > Can anyone reccomend an existing mounting bracket, vs me
fabbing my
> > > own? Im gonna put some waterjet shop owners kids through
college at
> > > this rate.
> > >
> > > Also a wierd question, does anyone have the list archives in a
format
> > > I can get to? The search is pretty useless and I hate to ask
questions
> > > that have more than likely been beaten into the ground...
> > >
> >
>
 
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nelson625@aol.com

Guest
Re: Re: Alternator swap

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John Friese et al -

I was having generator problems which I had thoughtwas avoltage regulator problem. At any rate, when I took the stock Amphi generator to a local ( very experienced and reliable ) auto electric shop to diagnose its condition, they said it basically just needed cleaning up and new brushes, they believed, though it was still producing a minimal charge.. However when I inquired about the practicality and cost of having them install a positive ground GM alternator instead of rectifiying the generator problem, they readily said they could handle it. They converteda GMalternator to positive ground and did a pretty simple and satisfactory installation job so that itlooks quite "factory" to the non Amphi owner who knows that a generator was originally there. Total charge $ 195 which I thought was very reasonable. I then installed a blackfaced VDOanalog Voltmeterbelow the dash to the right of the steering column which is a very simple wiring and installation job and the whole set up is great.Itlooks quite stock to 99+ % of the people. Anyway, it could always be put back to stock if some owner wished to do so after I am no longer around.It is very comforting to see the voltmeter indicate thatthe systemis always charging and the battery is always topped off. Peter Fredsall of South Daytona and I are in a Christmas Parade this Saturday with our "twin Aqua Amphicars" and during the parade, I have no worry, of course, that my system will put out all that I need and more continuously.
Vic Nelson with the Split Personality near Daytona Beach
 
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