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rayhand

Guest
Why do we have ads taking up space in the posted messages? Is this
something that we have to put up with? Ray
 
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Bill Connelly

Guest
Why do we have ads taking up space in the posted messages? Is this
something that we have to put up with? Ray

==========

The ads are the price that Yahoo! charges for hosting this free List.
Originally the List was hosted on a service that cost over $200/year, which
was paid for at first entirely out-of-pocket by the List's founder and
administrator Mike Israel and later by donations from the various
subscribers and so on. It was felt by most subscribers that such banner
ads, as long as they remained fairly inobtrusive, were an acceptable feature
in exchange for an otherwise totally free service that includes other
popular features like file uploads sharing, shared photo albums, etc. over
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amphicar-lovers/ . Of course, if the ads
ever did get out of hand or other really annoying features began to get
foisted on us, or if the service shut down for any reason (hey, it's been
known to happen) there IS an alternative as-yet-unused majordomo List
program all gassed up, battened down and ready to sail at Amphicar.net to
take up the slack. It's not as fancy as the multi-featureYahoo! service,
but it's there and waiting if it's ever needed. For now though, most seem
to agree that Yahoo! and the fine List Archives services at
http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/search.html are the very best
solutions available for free.

Newer subscribers to this List should be told that Mike is to be lavishly
praised for his work. If it weren't for him getting this List off the
ground, you most probably would NOT have seen hardly any of the great
resources available for Amphicar owners that are out there now, including a
truly member-run Club, Amphicar.net, a searchable knowledge database of now
nearly 6000 postings of Amphicar wisdom and tips, and lastly the sight
nearly 200 Amphicar owners gathering the last week in July in an otherwise
obscure town in western Ohio. The place of this List as the preeminent
forum for Amphicar owners is arguably what led to all of these other great
things coming to pass. Mike Israel is the Johnny Appleseed of Amphicar
fellowship and knowledge resources.

~Bilgemaster~
 
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Mike Israel

Guest
The ads are what makes the list available as a free
service through YahooGroups. If list members would
prefer some form of anuual fee we can always go back
to the original listserver.

Mike Israel
List / Digest Admin

--- rayhand <rayhand@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why do we have ads taking up space in the posted
> messages? Is this
> something that we have to put up with? Ray
>

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rayhand

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I guess the ads will stay! Ray

--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., "Bill Connelly" <billiam@e...> wrote:
>
> Why do we have ads taking up space in the posted messages? Is this
> something that we have to put up with? Ray
>
> ==========
>
> The ads are the price that Yahoo! charges for hosting this free
List.
> Originally the List was hosted on a service that cost over
$200/year, which
> was paid for at first entirely out-of-pocket by the List's founder
and
> administrator Mike Israel and later by donations from the various
> subscribers and so on. It was felt by most subscribers that such
banner
> ads, as long as they remained fairly inobtrusive, were an acceptable
feature
> in exchange for an otherwise totally free service that includes
other
> popular features like file uploads sharing, shared photo albums,
etc. over
> at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amphicar-lovers/ . Of course, if
the ads
> ever did get out of hand or other really annoying features began to
get
> foisted on us, or if the service shut down for any reason (hey, it's
been
> known to happen) there IS an alternative as-yet-unused majordomo
List
> program all gassed up, battened down and ready to sail at
Amphicar.net to
> take up the slack. It's not as fancy as the multi-featureYahoo!
service,
> but it's there and waiting if it's ever needed. For now though,
most seem
> to agree that Yahoo! and the fine List Archives services at
> http://www.escribe.com/automotive/amphicar/search.html are the very
best
> solutions available for free.
>
> Newer subscribers to this List should be told that Mike is to be
lavishly
> praised for his work. If it weren't for him getting this List off
the
> ground, you most probably would NOT have seen hardly any of the
great
> resources available for Amphicar owners that are out there now,
including a
> truly member-run Club, Amphicar.net, a searchable knowledge database
of now
> nearly 6000 postings of Amphicar wisdom and tips, and lastly the
sight
> nearly 200 Amphicar owners gathering the last week in July in an
otherwise
> obscure town in western Ohio. The place of this List as the
preeminent
> forum for Amphicar owners is arguably what led to all of these other
great
> things coming to pass. Mike Israel is the Johnny Appleseed of
Amphicar
> fellowship and knowledge resources.
>
> ~Bilgemaster~
 
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Marc Schlemmer

Guest
The ads really only show up when you read the messages from the Yahoo! web
page. You can change your settings to allow for the messages to be emailed
to you, and there are no ads. There are of course advantages and
disadvantages of both methods.....I find myself bouncing back and forth
between both. I always have the single, daily digest emailed to me (which I
keep for my records), but when time permits, I like to go to the site and
read them.

Marc Schlemmer.

- Also, I agree with the Bilgemaster....thanks, Mike for making the Digest
happen! If the ads or Yahoo! in general start to create additional
problems for you to administer this, Mike, do let us know. For now, I'm
happy with the setup.
 
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buoyant3

Guest
Not knowing all the advantages, bells and whistles that Amphicar.net
may have over Yahoo-Groups such as the files, photos and chat room,
if Yahoo wants money to remove the ads, why don't we use some of the
dues we give to the club, they can't want all that much.
We are members in other groups within Yahoo, which makes it nice for
moving between groups, and the ads don't bother us as we see such
goings on elsewhere, they seem to be the norm in the E-world these
days. The ads seem to have appeared due to an effort of Yahoo-groups
to pay for their offerings, which is no doubt loosing money.
I believe we should be checking into Mike's offerings and be prepared
to make a quick switch if yahoo decides to drop their groups
division. These are only my thoughts.
Marty in WI


--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., "Marc Schlemmer" <mschlem@a...> wrote:
> The ads really only show up when you read the messages from the
Yahoo! web
 
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Bill Connelly

Guest
Re: Re: Ads

In response to Marty's posting below, I can only respond that while we are
well prepared for every eventuality to keep this List alive via the
Amphicar.net server if ever the need arose, the present "Yahoo!" setup
really is preferable, even with those little banner ads. Apart from the
List service, "Yahoo!" offers lots of other popular file sharing features to
our Group that the Amphicar.net plain vanilla and plain text "majordomo"
List setup simply could not support...at least not without a lot of extra
drudge work by me. The List would continue, sure, and that really IS the
primary concern, but that's it: there'd be no more free-for-all upload
center for aerial wide angle shots of Dave The Wave's uvula or scans of
plans for a combination onboard urinal and bilgepump-operated tailgater
repellent system.

With all that said, and credit given to "Yahoo!" where it's due, I really DO
think that the new Amphicar.net-hosted multiple-nook "Amphi Chat" service
(linked on both www.amphicar.net and www.amphicar.com home pages) is
preferable to the Yahoo! offering if only because it carries no dead weight:
no slowing ads, no pre-registration required, one need do nothing but sign
in and chat. Without the drag it's certainly "perkier" than the "Yahoo!"
Group's chat feature and even keeps a running log behind the scenes in case
any session came up with revelations worth saving or reviewing. This new
"Amphi-Chat" service replaces the one that used to be hosted via
Amphicar.net with a company called "xoom.com" that suddenly went "dot bomb"
and shut down its free chat service without warning. Folks who've been
meeting Monday evenings in the "Yahoo!" chat room in the interim should
really check out the new "Amphi Chat" service at www.amphicar.net or
www.amphicar.com .

As for Yahoo! removing the ads from List postings by paying a fee, I see no
such feature offered in their site that would enable this, even if we were
willing to pay, but you are free to research the matter further. If the
banner ads really are a bandwisth-robbing nuisance for anyone, such as if
you have a very very " s l o w " sub-28.8 Kbps dialup
connection that really makes the ad banners drag out mail downloads, then
you might consider changing your Yahoogroups My Groups' "Email Preferences"
to receive plain instead of HTML mail. You will then receive instead of
banner images only smaller plain text ad texts that will load much
quicker...but then you'll miss out on HTML features posted by members such
as links and images. It's a tradeoff.

As for Yahoo! dropping its Groups service, there doesn't seem to be any
threat of this on the horizon, so really everyone can just relax.

~Bilgemaster~

========
Not knowing all the advantages, bells and whistles that Amphicar.net
may have over Yahoo-Groups such as the files, photos and chat room,
if Yahoo wants money to remove the ads, why don't we use some of the
dues we give to the club, they can't want all that much.
We are members in other groups within Yahoo, which makes it nice for
moving between groups, and the ads don't bother us as we see such
goings on elsewhere, they seem to be the norm in the E-world these
days. The ads seem to have appeared due to an effort of Yahoo-groups
to pay for their offerings, which is no doubt loosing money.
I believe we should be checking into Mike's offerings and be prepared
to make a quick switch if yahoo decides to drop their groups
division. These are only my thoughts.
Marty in WI


--- In amphicar-lovers@y..., "Marc Schlemmer" <mschlem@a...> wrote:
> The ads really only show up when you read the messages from the
Yahoo! web



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